Everyone in R&S: your views on the Israel / Palestine conflict?

It's a tragedy all around.

People are dying on both sides and at this point, there really is no morally correct way to resolve it. Pandora's box of conflict has been opened over there, and there's no way to fix it (short of one side or the other being killed off completely).

There is a religious component to the fighting from both sides, but it is a secondary concern. The religious issue revolves around control of the Dome of the Rock and the Temple Mount (which are the same place), and how both sides want that land for their own religious traditions.

It is primarily a political conflict, since the Palestinians have a legitimate claim to the land from centuries of living there and the Israelis have a legitimate claim from international recognition and that "possession is 9/10 of the law."

It may shock some of you that I am a Christian, and consider myself to be pretty conservative.

Most people that call themselves that think that God has promised that area of dirt at the eastern end of the Mediterranean to Israel, so we should only care about that and support Israel all the way.

That idea is based on a VERY flawed view of the Bible. Throughout the New Testament there are statements on how race/ethnicity/etc is meaningless to God. He no longer cares a bit about Jew vs. Gentile. The promises of a land for the Jews is shown repeatedly to be symbolic of Heaven for all of God's children (whether Jew or not).

So, I come out squarely neutral on this matter.

I feel very sorry for the Palestinians that had their homes stolen to make Jewish settlements. At the same time the US has obligations to protect the nation that they have treaties with. Also, it's an open secret that Israel has nukes, so the last thing I want is for them to fall (and have those nukes fall into the unfriendly nations around them) or to be pushed into a corner (and resort to using those nukes).

Post war the world out of guilt or compassion allowed the state of Israel .

It had borders over the past 60 or more years these borders have been pushed in favor of Israel. Over the past decades Israel has been consistently abusing the Palestinians, killing children on the way to school, destroying their homes . Even some of the Israeli solders find the behaviour of their fellow solders discussting.

The Palestinians are weak, with few defences . The idea that a god gave Israel the land is a poor argument. If we honor that then we need to give the American Indians the land their god gave them.

My religion is part of my Celtic roots. My religion is not related to the God of the Israelites.

I say we invite and pay for all the Jews and kaffirs in Israel to come live in say... Oregon. Then those Jews would live in America and could explain to liberals how callous they were for wanting Israel to be fed to the wolves. Libs would then gripe at those Jews and I would take great delight in calling those liberals 'racist' for doing so.

There would finally be 'peace' in the Middle East and it would, like all 'peaceful middle eastern countries' consist mainly of Muslims killing each other.

Libs would then have to find something else to whine about, some other way to show their preemptive surrender to Islam, a religion which hates pretty much every good thing liberals say they stand for.

Both. Lots of believers really think Yahweh granted them the land. There are also just greedy reasons, and racist reasons for the conflict.

If religion never existed,this would not be happening.

In fact,if religion never existed.

1)Jews wouldn't be killed in WW2

2)The crusades would never have happened.

3)The world would be more technologically advanced by now.

I am opposed to conflict, whatever the "reasons" for it are.