When is the right time to have the gun control debate?

Right after we take away people's pot, coke, meth, and moonshine...and get everyone driving 55mph in an electric car.

Aside from what it should or shouldn't do, Government needs to realize what it can control, and what it can't.

I do not always suppose weapons should be restrained. I do believe that the method of purchasing a gun should be uniform and streamlined. I also suppose that firearms will have to be registered and that individuals should be screened for intellectual wellness functions. How to try this is the tremendous question. Eventually, we could take into account going back to banning high capability clips for purchasers. All that would help. But the right to own a gun is apparent and are not able to be debated any further.

"Guns don't kill people, people do. But they do it faster, easier, and on a far grander scale with guns."

Compared to what? Knives, garden tools, knitting needles or hand to hand?

I like my chances of someone going nuts with a gun of ANY type than planning a bombing. 30 40 or even 50 people is small compared to the damage a couple of well placed bombs would do and would allow the attacker to even get away with it. Bombs are very easily made by anyone. Getting a gun is much harder.

I'll take one idiot with a gun. I'd suggest an armed school police officer at each school or more depending on population. You can't totally prevent these occurrences, you can only have a plan when it does happen.

There are still facts being learned. I am speculating, based on the number of rounds fired, that high capacity clips were used. If so then some people in Washington will have some things to answer for. They will need to explain why bills introduced in the wake of the Arizona shooting of a couple of years ago, that would have restricted the sale of high capacity magazines, were blocked by some law makers. Similar bills were introduced last summer and could be acted on by congress before the end of the year. Claims that banning magazines that carry over 10 rounds violates second amendment rights are ludicrous. Call me crazy but I think that an 11 year old's right to go to school in safety trumps someone else's right to purchase a 30 round magazine.

The Problem is is that Gun Control is NOT Repeat NOT the Problem, It is our society, NOT the Gun, Put the blame on were it needs to be, On the people and society And stop blaming other things,

This country teaches moral relativism and subjective ethics, violence on Tv, Video games, parents caught up in other things instead of nurturing their children, and all Liberals seem to do is make excuses and talk around that.

let me say it loud and clear, banning guns would be an extremely bad idea. Criminals, by definition, do not obey laws. Psychotic mass murderers do not obey laws. With the proliferation of guns in the United States, if citizens were banned from owning guns, it would only be the good, law-abiding citizens who would obey the laws – precisely the people we want to have guns. Criminals would keep their guns. Psychotic mass-murderers would still find ways to acquire guns. There would simply be less people with the ability to stop or deter them.

The vast majority of gun owners in the United States of America have never harmed another human being, and never will. People use guns for hunting, for sport, or for an absolute last resort in self-defense. The fact that criminals use guns to commit crimes does not mean guns are the problem. Criminals are the problem. If all the guns in the world were taken away, criminals would find new ways to rob convenience stores, to commit muggings, to terrify people, and to commit horrible atrocities and mass-murders. No, gun control is not the answer.

Fine have the discussion. But if we want to avoid a situation like one that just occurred we need to know exactly what happened. And we will not know that for at least a few days.

With the movie theater instance it was not for a few days that we realized problems with dealing with the clearly mentally ill especially in our colleges was likely the biggest reason for the shooting, that and perhaps poorly designed exits in movie theaters.

So talk about gun control if you wish. Just don't try to claim that gun control would have prevent this tragedy. As of yet we don't know enough specifics.

Perhaps this is the time to discuss requiring every law abiding citizen to own a gun and to revisit a topic the left dreads, personal responsibility.

While the cities with the most draconian gun control laws consistently have the most violence, towns like Kennesaw, Ga, which require citizens to own firearms are seeing much less.

"In March 1982, 25 years ago, the small town of Kennesaw – responding to a handgun ban in Morton Grove, Ill. – unanimously passed an ordinance requiring each head of household to own and maintain a gun. Since then, despite dire predictions of “Wild West” showdowns and increased violence and accidents, not a single resident has been involved in a fatal shooting – as a victim, attacker or defender.

The crime rate initially plummeted for several years after the passage of the ordinance, with the 2005 per capita crime rate actually significantly lower than it was in 1981, the year before passage of the law.

Prior to enactment of the law, Kennesaw had a population of just 5,242 but a crime rate significantly higher (4,332 per 100,000) than the national average (3,899 per 100,000). The latest statistics available – for the year 2005 – show the rate at 2,027 per 100,000. Meanwhile, the population has skyrocketed to 28,189.

By comparison, the population of Morton Grove, the first city in Illinois to adopt a gun ban for anyone other than police officers, has actually dropped slightly and stands at 22,202, according to 2005 statistics. More significantly, perhaps, the city’s crime rate increased by 15.7 percent immediately after the gun ban, even though the overall crime rate in Cook County rose only 3 percent. Today, by comparison, the township’s crime rate stands at 2,268 per 100,000."

This was not what some predicted.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41196/#kddyAghFsleyO7zL...

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re: "Guns don't kill people, people do. But they do it faster, easier, and on a far grander scale with guns. "

Your characterization of mass murder as murder on a "grand scale" is a particularly strange choice of words. But, speaking of murder on a "grand scale", let me ask you, how many genocides, ethnic cleansings etc. throughout history have been inflicted on people who had not been disarmed first?

"If the population of Eastern Europe were as well armed as the average American, the Nazis would have lost much of their military capacity attempting to implement the Holocaust."

No one is threatening the banning of guns.

That being said, every citizen should have to go through a background check before purchasing a gun. 40% of guns sold today are purchased without a background check. The Gun Show loophole should also be closed.

Assault Weapons, extended clips, cop-killer bullets should all be banned. There is no reason for the average Law abiding American to have or need them. The same should be applied to head-to-toe Kevlar body armor.

You should be able to walk into a public place in this Country without the need to have a gun in your pocket to feel safe.

When people on all sides are able to sit down and using facts and logic have a meaningful and mature discussion.

Emotion leads to bad law. Good intentions have a pretty poor history of achieving the intended results.

While those who favor restricting gun ownership focus on the relatively few legal gun owners who commit crimes, they ignore the potential for even greater tragedy that would occur if the law-abiding population was suddenly turned into unarmed victims.

How about a discussion about the repeal of the stupid law declaring schools gun-free zones? One reason demented psychos shoot up schools is they know no one on school grounds is armed, so they're basically free to shoot as many people as they want until the police arrive -- and by then they could be long gone. If the teachers and/or administrators were allowed to have guns on school property, they could at least restrict the amount of damage done.

Gun control laws harm NO ONE except responsible individuals who exercise their right to keep and bear arms with the level of respect and discipline it deserves. Criminals and killers will always find a way to get guns if they want them.

Nice far left liberal reference.

No, right after a tragedy is not the time to discuss gun control. When is a good time? There never is.

Unrestricted flow of firearms? Hardly. How about unrestricted flow of evil people?

People determined to kill will kill with whatever weapon they can find.