When did the jews become damned?

When people involved with non-Jewish salvation religions took an interest in Jewish texts, misread them and appropriated them into their non-Jewish ways of thinking regardless.

Judaism doesn't have a concept of salvation. We have the use of redemption from indentured servitude as a metaphor that was primarily used to talk about relief from the machinations of the Assyrian and Babylonian empires. Rather significant difference, eh? :-)

Judaism doesn't have a concept of damnation either. That's a 'pagan' thing, from those non-Jewish salvation religions. The first of these were simply about salvation from death, but over centuries of development the accompanying metaphysics became more and more complex. The Eleusinian Mysteries contributed the image of Tartarus as a place of fire and torture, while the Orphic Mysteries developed and theatricalized the pre-cursor theology for original sin. The overall world view was that the physical world was inherently corrupt. An intermediary, a saviour deity, was necessary to become free from that.

The beginning of Genesis makes it very clear that Jews do not agree with this view of the physical world. Over and over again we read 'and G-d saw that it was good....'

It's a truly strange thing. In Judaism, there is no condemnation, nothing to be 'saved' from. Yet Christianity comes along, claims to bring good things to everyone and ends up condemning the lot. How is that progress? %-)

The Christian Bible does not support the notion that Jews as a whole are "damned". It appears that this idea was invented after the Bible was written although there is evidence that the translators were biased.

Added: Nely gives an interesting answer. I would have gave it a T/U if it hadn't been for the last part "gentiles began to grow more into the christian church than the jews had been.". The problem is that the opposite is true, the further you get from the 1st century the less the Christian church resembles Judaism.

actually the first century church was all jewish. peter need a special revelation to even consider sharing jesus with gentiles in acts 10 and 11. the church finally accepted that gentiles were to be included in gods plan of salvation in acts 15 many years after calvary. only when jewish persecution arose do we see in acts 13, 18, 19, 22 and foll, that gentiles began to grow more into the christian church than the jews had been. groundwire.net

It wasn't about Non-Christians being unsaved but rather the focus was with being saved as baptism was considered a means of receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit (His Grace). The early Christians weren't overly concerned about matters outside of the Church they did understand that Jesus' sacrifice was made for mankind. This is why in Christianity it was a big deal to be baptized as a Christian because otherwise if you weren't baptized you were considered as unbaptized. Believe this or not the issue of the salvation of Non-Christians wasn't even an issue until the Vatican Councils because the teaching of the Catholic Church had always been there is no salvation outside of the Church. But when it became an issue for the Catholic Church the Non-Christians were justified under the doctrine baptism by desire which had been reworded and also under a baptism by blood. Before the Vatican Councils the baptism by desire was for those who desired baptism but died before they could be baptized by water (Sacrament of the Church) in which their deeds have been done in God. The addition of Non-Christians were included as if they had known the necessity of baptism by water which means that even Non-Christians could find salvation and enter into His Kingdom (Heaven). But like I said prior before the Vatican Councils the Catholic Church was not overly concerned about Non-Christians because Non-Christians were not overly concerned about Christians.

They never were as a whole damned.

God made a covenant with them

The covenant between God and the Jews was an eternal one - it states this 14 times in the first five books. It is not a covenant that can be broken. God doesn't break his vows.

But when Jews and non Jews began following Christianity, following the man named Jesus. Who they believe is the son of God, the promised savior, THAT was when the two faiths split, for all time.

Jesus himself NEVER stated that the eternal covenant between God and the Jews was to be broken. He died a Jew. The apostles were Jewish. What he 'started' you could say was a reform movement WITHIN Judaism.

The future for the Jews is firmly rooted in God's promise to Abraham that they would possess the land of Israel for ever.

God later promised King David: "I will set up your seed after you, who will come from your body ... and I will establish the throne of his kingdom for ever" (2 Samuel 7:12,13).

For Christianity, Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is descended from David through Mary his mother. He died for our sins and rose from the dead to live for ever. He will return to fulfill the promises made to David : "The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David. And he will reign over the house of Jacob for ever, and of his kingdom there will be no end" (Luke 1:32,33).

Peter, on the Day of Pentecost, reminded the Jews that "the patriarch David ... is both dead and buried", but "God had sworn with an oath to him that he would raise up the Christ to sit on his throne" (Acts 2:29,30). What God has promised, He will surely perform.

That Christians see this as the fulfillment of that early promise made. God's salvation is also offered to Gentiles (non-Jews) and Jews. Jesus will rule in God's kingdom.The Gentiles shall see your righteousness, and all kings your glory" (Isaiah 62:2).

Christians believe God does not just offer a good life to Jews without the Gentiles or visa versa. But To individual Jews and Gentiles He offers everlasting life, if they believe, are baptized and follow His Son, Jesus Christ. His offer is open to everyone. Galatians 3:28 ►

New International Version (©1984)

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, free or not, male or female - All are on a level; all are saved in the same way; all are entitled to the same privileges. There is no favoritism on account of birth, beauty, or blood. All confess that they are sinners; all are saved by the merits of the same Savior; all are admitted to the same privileges as children of God. The word "Greek" here is used to denote the Gentiles generally; since the whole world was divided by the Jews into "Jews and Greeks"

So neither should believe such as all the Jews became damned. Many of God's people were Jews. The only ones who are said to be damned are those who don't try to follow God's word- which can be anyone from any faith or unbelievers in this world

I know not of any scripture either in the Hebrew or Greek (OT- NT) that says what you claim.

Unless you are talking about

Matthew 21:43 ►

New International Version (©1984)

"Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit."

Meaning his favor will be Given to a nation bringing forth the fruits. The kingdom was taken from the Jews alone and given to the chosen nation; (a new spiritual Israel ) not any particular nation, but those chosen out of all the nations to be a peculiar people to him (1Pe 2:9) Fulfilling another promise he made--of all nations will be blessed. In Genesis 22:18 that in Abraham, all the families of the earth will be blessed

I can only offer you what a Christian's perspective should be here. It has its roots in the first prophecies.

I study both still--there is much I still would like to learn

I would be very careful about saying all Jews became damned. That covers many of God's chosen people that we were told of....including Jesus who was born one, if your a Christian we should keep that in mind when we speak so strongly at times. He might not like it.

When the Romans adopted Christianity as the official religion of the Empire

Never.

Zechariah 13:6

6 And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.

The Jews never became "unsaved". God does not discriminate. Jews are offered salvation just as everyone else. It is those who do not accept Jesus who are "unsaved".

It is a human judgment call by their neighbors since Israel has not acted righteously concerning her dominion over the Palestinians.

It is sad when someone has dominion over others and still mistreats them.

YAHUSHUA kept Torah, and His followers will also. He did not come to start something new, but to RENEW the covenant of life with people who had disobeyed Him. When Life is rejected, you have death. When salvation is rejected, you have eternal death. you can't have Salvation without YHVH's Salvation (which is what YAHUSHUA means).