Am I wrong to want to evict a toddler & her mom?

No, you are not wrong. Most leases for multiple-story dwellings require you to put a carpet down over 3/4 of the floor, to muffle sound.

And it's not the LANDLORD who has strict rules about people living with the elderly couple---it's the federal government. Section 8 is very strict about that. NO ONE may live in the dwelling except the two people who were granted the Section 8 voucher. The elderly couple know exactly what they're doing, which is defrauding the government and stealing taxpayer money, so save your sympathy for someone who deserves it. And if the landlord allowed three people to stay longer than two weeks, HE is defrauding the government too. If he knows they are there now, and does nothing, it's because he wants that check from the government every month. It's apparently more important to him than yours.

If you hate drama, you'd better move out. Believe me, relatives and friends will come out of the woodwork and fill up that apartment-for-two like a rat's nest, and that's before the girl has another baby, which she probably will.

But if you decide to stand up for yourself, you could bust all of them with a phone call (below).

@ Leslie---you can call it "passing judgment" all you want, but the Section 8 rules could NOT be clearer on who is allowed to stay in the Section 8 dwelling, and the elderly couple CANNOT be ignorant of those rules. It's not possible to MISunderstand them. That's how clear they make it before they give you the voucher; they have to be that explicit because many times they are dealing with people who are illiterate or very low IQ.. Those vouchers are for poor or disabled people only, not for the relatives and friends who move in with the voucher-holders afterward to take advantage of the free or 70% subsidized rent. In fact the construction worker's income might have prevented them from getting Section 8 in the first place, if he'd been listed as a household member during the application process, which of course he was not.

You go live for five years in a neighborhood where half the rentals are Section 8 before you pass judgment on ME. I've seen this exact scenario and worse, over and over.

I agree with the others,when they say it's not wrong.. It's normal,especially for a three year old to be "loud".. However,at wee hours of the night,is ridiculous. I'm not familiar with section 8,I've never had that,so I'm not sure as to how the rules are. But if they are,the way other comments stated,(only the elderly,noone else can live there) the mom,and toddler should apply for their own. I'm sure there are homeless shelters that would accept them,especially since they have a child.. And as for confronting the mother.. It's hard to say how she would react. Some people go "crazy" ,so for your safety,I'd just tell the landlord. Nowadays it's hard to predict someone else's reaction,especially when you calmly discuss the noise level of their child at 11pm...

You don't have any kids, do you?

Just wait.............pmsl

Anyway, I used to be EXACTLY like you. Until I had kids myself!

I was pregnant with twins when my husband and I moved to a ground floor flat.

The couple above us had 2 small kids with no carpet!

They were so LOUD and constantly screaming - we thought they were being BEATEN!!!

We ended up having words (which got out of hand) they called the police and we called social services!

Nothing happened regarding the police (they didn't even knock at our door, pmsl)

When I had my twins, my whole world got turned upside down!

The NOISE that comes with kids literally blew me out the water!

So I can actually empathize with this couple now.

We moved to a larger place when I found out I was pregnant again.

So, with two 4 year olds & an almost 3 year old.....my house is constantly loud & hectic!

I feel sorry for my neighbours, but they've NEVER knocked and complained......because they have children too!!!

You have no idea what situation this woman or her partner are in......you're best bet here, is to talk to them first......because I DO think it's wrong for you to just kick them out on their ar$e$ when they might not have anywhere else to go!

You say the noise level is high from 12pm till midnight - but then you say, you see the dad take the kid to school.......so surely the noise isn't ALL day???

Still, I have to admit, the kid should be in bed instead of running the walls till 12am!

Anyway, talk to them - tell them your situation.

How do you know, they might not be saving money to get a place of their own.......deposits can be expensive!

Talk. To. Them!!!!!

@Helene....it's very interesting how you can pass judgement on these people and not know them. Wow. Anyway...no you wouldn't be wrong. They aren't supposed to be there anyway and the noise, I know, can get crazy even with the correct carpet. Where I used to live the child upstairs sounded like he was coming through the ceiling at all hours. The landlord did nothing...but that's a diff story. You could write a letter and drop it off or whatever but yes you should for sure let the landlord know.

You pronounced interior the physique of your question : " ... I complained to the owner at some point approximately each and all the noise, and the new child's mom have been given disenchanted with me and ... " on the time of complaining to the owner approximately "each and all the noise", did you surely tell the owner that the elderly couple now have 3 greater tenants staying with them and that it fairly is in breach of the tenancy contract ? in case you probably did no longer surely point out to the owner that there is now greater tenants interior the flat above your flat, curiously that the owner the two : a million. did no longer 'seize on' to the actuality that the greater effective 3 anybody is surely living there and not in basic terms traveling for a number of weeks after in all probability moving interstate and finding for a place of their very very own. OR 2. the elderly couple and perchance the three new tenants are kin of the owner. You on no account understand, the elderly couple must be the surely proprietors of the entire property and that they hire the owner as an objective third occasion to collect lease and handle maintenance subjects. this manner they might shop their anonymity and evade having the floor floor tenant telling them immediately approximately maintenance subjects, on the comparable time as preserving an eye fixed on the tenant interior the floor floor flat, which purely occurs to be you.

I don't think you are wrong to be upset over the noise, but I would try talking to the mother or elderly couple before going straight to the landlord.

You deserve peace and quiet. You should try to talk to the tenants about the noise problems. At least give them a chance to fix the problem. If the problem doesn't improve greatly in the next month or so then give them the ultimatum of kicking their niece and great-niece out or all of them being kicked out. Don't be mean about it, the elders are probably as upset about it as you are, but you can't choose your family.

You aren't wrong. They should not be breaking the rules. The mom shouldn't be letting her daughter stomp around the house until midnight. Sick.

No that's not wrong at all. You deserve peace and quiet and obviously this mother is not able to take care of her child, so that's why it's so obnoxious.