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American Atheists: Religious Political Figures?

I've noted that many of you Atheists (not all) are very active in the Politics section as well, so I wanted to hear your opinion on the fact that the vast majority of the political figures that you support are religious.

Many of you spend all day in R&S mocking religious people, but you seem so excited about supporting religious people in politics.

According to a poll conducted among the 111th Congress (2009-2011) only 5 called themselves "unspecified/don't know/refused to answer." That's 0.9% of Congress.

If we add in the non-Christians and Jews (you know the ones that you like to malign the most), we're only up to a total of 12. That's 2.2% of Congress. That number is including the Muslims.

Let's be really generous and include the "Pietists, Friends/Quakers, and the Protestant - Unspecified" in case some Atheists were too ashamed to call themselves such and pretended to be part of those groups. That brings us to a total of 53. So now we have 9.9% of Congress.

Let me also point out that our current President is religious and cited his religion as an inpsiration for some of his most notable policies.

The only conclusion that can be reached is that the vast majority of you not only voted for, but also supported political candidates that were Christians or Jews of some form. And you did that while openly mocking religion and calling any person believing such things stupid/insane/deluded.

What does that say about the consistency of your position?

Update:

So, from the answers so far you've told me that while you think the religious are stupid/deluded/insane/evil, you still are willing to select one of them to make decisions that drastically change your lives? That seems rather dangerous.

Further, a number of you not only vote for, but openly support and campaign for such people. That seems like glaring hypocrisy to support someone you would call so deluded.

Update 2:

@Ashnod

1. No implied Antisemitism here. I merely pointed out the way that Atheists on Y!A are very fond of picking on Christians and Jews in their religious ideas.

That was an "unfounded assumption" on your part.

2. So, you're telling me that you're not voting for candidates with religious beliefs? The statistics are all I'm talking about. So, if you are the unique person that only votes for Atheists good for you, but that's not the case.

If you're one of those nicer Atheists around that doesn't feel the need to mock, name-call, or in other ways denigrate religious people, good for you! You have my admiration, and you're not someone I'm looking to discuss this with.

No "unfounded assumptions" here at all.

Update 3:

Just to be clear, I'm looking for an actual rational argument regarding this decision to ignore something that many of you spend so much time attacking and belittling.

Some of you have given answers that are somewhat rational (though I wished they addressed the question better.

I am not going to just pick some random Theist that wanders in to answer. I wrote this question to Atheists for the sake of getting answers for them; so Theists trying to make quips are automatically disqualified from BA.

Update 4:

Just to be clear, I'm looking for an actual rational argument regarding this decision to ignore something that many of you spend so much time attacking and belittling.

Some of you have given answers that are somewhat rational (though I wished they addressed the question better.

I am not going to just pick some random Theist that wanders in to answer. I wrote this question to Atheists for the sake of getting answers for them; so Theists trying to make quips are automatically disqualified from BA.

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  • manuel
    Lv 7
    8 years ago
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    It says a couple of things:

    Religious views aren't the criterion we use.

    We often vote for the least-bad candidate, instead of the ideal one.

    My position isn't that I'll only vote for open atheists. My position is that I don't believe that there are gods.

  • 8 years ago

    "...you seem so excited about supporting religious people in politics."

    "According to a poll conducted among the 111th Congress (2009-2011) only 5 called themselves "unspecified/don't know/refused to answer." That's 0.9% of Congress."

    Kind of answered your own question didn't you?

    What choice do we have?

    If atheists are 5 - 6% of the US population (that's being generous), we don't have the power to get our non-religious candidates into office, and rarely do they even get into the running. That being the case, given the choice between two religious candidates, what can we do but pick the one we think will do the least harm?

    As far as those of us who openly support and campaign for a religious candidate, maybe you've only served to shoot down your own argument. Maybe atheists aren't as prejudiced as you imagine. Barring that, it still makes sense. Choosing the lesser of two evils for president can make a giant difference, given the power of the office. It makes sense to passionately defend the better candidate for the sake of the good (or at least, the reduction of harm) associated with that candidate getting into office, staying in office, passing a piece of critical legislation, etc.

  • punch
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    You do realize that there are very few in the go government that identify with atheism. So we don't have much choice. The change has to come from the inside and will take awhile. And I take it you only vote for people who feel the same way you do On all aspects? I don't believe that for one minute. Also, being an atheist I don't make it a habit to mock others who believe differently, yet you seem to have no problem.

  • Ashnod
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    It says that you're making a lot of accusations that have no grounding in reality -- and not just that cute little accusation of anti-Semitism you threw in there. I've never said that anyone who believes in religion is stupid/insane/deluded. I think religion is wrong, and believing it may be a little bit silly, but everyone does some things that are a little bit silly, and as long as they don't do any harm with it, I'm not going to cast aspersions. The politicians I support understand the importance of secularism, and don't get their religious beliefs mixed up with their political duties. They oppose unnecessary entanglements of church and state.

    What does that say about your unfounded assumptions?

    Edit: As I said, I vote for politicians who understand the importance of a secular government and don't try to push religious beliefs into our country's laws. There are some religious politicians out there who fit that description.

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  • 8 years ago

    Look, in my opinion, a politician's religious views doesn't matter to me as long as they don't push their religious beliefs into law. And besides, why should I care what their religion is? You shouldn't be totally against someone just because they don't share the same religion as you. As long as you agree with their political ideals--why should their religion matter?

  • 8 years ago

    1. Atheists don't make up a voting majority.

    2. Sometimes, you have to vote economically (vote for the lesser of two evils rather than for a preferred cadidate so that the vote will be more effective).

    3. We don't all get to vote for every office. we get to vote for our own local officials, our state officials (divided by district), our state's two Senators and the 1 Representative for our district, not necessarily for the whole state and a vote of questionable value for president.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    >What does that say about the consistency of your position?

    It says that we know we're a minority. Besides, saying you're an atheist as a representative trying to get elected is political suicide in most cases.

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    Absolutely nothing. I don't pick candidates based on their religion.

  • Herbie
    Lv 4
    8 years ago

    "What does that say about the consistency of your position?"

    I think it speaks more about the lack of real choices.

  • It says that we don't vote in accordance with our non-belief in God. Rather, we vote for the candidate that is the least distasteful who has the best chance of winning, just like you.

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