What can you believe?

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Believing is self-deception. Assigning probabilities makes much more sense.

Everything and nothing at the same time. File belief 1 in box A, belief 2 in box 2 etc. Then we've potentially kind of got them all and can shift them around and re-associate them in any combination without being committed or them not fitting together and conflicting.

Let's take an example. "There's a growing problem with mental illness". There's absolutely no fundamental reason why a concept made up by a committee without reference to anything of any kind of value or remotely in agreement with experience and assigned by "experts" in .... wait for it ... "mental illness" should represent a growing problem. So what actually happens is that the concept is just accelerated and assigned to a growing proportion of people. That's inseparable from things like drugs being forced into people. The people who have the "problem" reassign it to another target and force drugs into the target. So assigning "mental illness" and forcing drugs into other people are inseparable from each other and the "problem" grows exponentially. So it goes round and round to third parties first and comes back to the instigators last. So everyone gets harmed in the long run. This is covered by two double binds "and lacks insight", "and lacks decision making capacity", so the consequence is that people who don't have their behaviours directed by a made up concept and retain free will and won't force drugs into anyone else for any reason or condone or support the behaviour or agree "mental illness" as an absolute overriding reality are essentially more prone to be knocked out first.

The issue is that the belief is in charge of the people rather than the people being in charge of the belief(s).

If we progress this point about how concepts and beliefs work, if it was done the other way round - i.e. "There's a growing opportunity with 'mental health'" then people could acquire it themselves first and then put it on offer to other people. So it would be more positively oriented and would go round and round. It would still be a made up concept and the system would retain the qualities of a cult, but it would be less like a human sacrifice cult. However such concepts are constructed, they can't possibly fit with experiential reality, because they are add-ons that can't contain reality and therefore if fixed and be allowed to be directive are necessarily harmful.

If we return to more basic reality for a moment, it's experiential and to do with contentment and quality of life, which we can all do for ourselves and then it's available and can be allowed to go round and round. It's an opportunity, not a problem.

So what I'm saying is fixed beliefs are potentially dangerous because they can take over behaviours, be in control of us instead of us retaining natural control and fit and benign purpose consistently and in relation to self and all else. So we don't need them, although they are interesting to add to the collection.

Every election more than half the people believe the politician elected and they are almost Always wrong so you can believe anything you want , the point is ,is it true

I believe for every drop of rain that falls, a flower grows. Unfortunately some of the flowers are a Dutchman's pipe and small like excrement,but they look good. Others could be a venus flytrap. Few are roses.

People of India have a lot of traditions and customs. If some thing strange was messaged to me, I will believe it if it has some connection with what I know.

That the physical universe is made up of matter, energy, space and time and that all aspects of the physical universe fall into one of those huge categories.

I can believe that the physical can not create life, but that Life creates effects in the universe.

I believe Life created the universe. What life does can be measured. Since life created all 4 aspects of the physical universe life itself is not any of those basic components. Therefore it is impossible for those components to measure life.

Only the effects of life can be measured.

All intelligence is the result of the effects of life.

I can believe things that have evidence that they are true. I believe in very little else.

You can believe in your morals, because you were born with them.

They are the only thing that makes sense.

What can you believe?

~~~ Not a damn thing!

I am capable of actual thought, which is what philosophy is all about!

You want the religion site! No 'thought' there. There, any and all 'beliefs' are equally 'valid'.

the law of nature as not interpreted or perceived but the way it is. like in quantum theory, if you put assumption into it as an observer, it might alter. so what you can only do it, just see it as it is - i can't fully explain it though but i hope you get what i mean.