How can we say the rich don't pay their fair share?

People who say that the rich don't pay their fare share are right.

They pay far beyond whatever a fair share could ever be determined to be. They pay the shares for themselves and thousands of others.

It's not about what is fair. Fair is probably a word we should leave behind on the playground if it even had a place there. Sharing your toys is fair so everyone can play. Sharing your birthday cake is fair. Taxation is not about fairness.

What it is about is paying for the things our society wants or needs. A corporation needs educated labor and well maintained roads for moving trucks full of products. They need security provided by police and fire protection and courts to make certain they receive payment form their customers. You use the roads with your one car or truck and you help to pay for them. Walmart uses the roads for 6500 trucks so shouldn't Walmart help pay for them? You kid gets an education so they can get a job and you help pay for schools. GE needs 287,000 employees with at least a basic education so shouldn't GE and it's owners support the cost of schools.

It's not about what is fair. If companies need employees than they need to cover the cost of schools. End of story. If they need roads they need to cover the cost of maintaining them or building them. If they need the courts (and they have magnitude more use for them than you do) than they need to help pay for the cost of the legal system. If the price goes up for those things than so do the taxes. They pay more because they have more and they use more and they need more and because bottom line is the price has to be paid and poor people don't have enough money to cover it.

It's not about fair and never has been. It's about need. Business has far more need for government than anyone else. You could probably survive in an anarchy but no corporation actually could. They rely on laws and government so guess who gets the bill? Sure they would rather not pay it. Maybe you would rather walk into McDonald's and eat for free but the world doesn't work like that and McDonald's supports the cost of government to employee police and courts to make sure you don't eat for free so why shouldn't McDonald's help pay for that?

Forget fair. Life ain't fair and it's past time we learn that. We could let the rich stop paying and then the system would break down and then they would pay for a new system and in a century or so they would whine that it cost too much and we should pay more so they can pay less and some of us would be gullible enough to believe them.

If what you say is true, the gap between rich and poor would be shrinking.

It's not. You're wrong.

And they don't pay a higher rate. I paid 26% last year for 2 jobs, mitt romney paid 13% and HAD NO JOB.

You have it right that we punish hard work, but that's because the idle rich pay so little, not the bs reason you gave.

FAIR SHARE MY BUTT.

Most of the rich pay too much, but the government is addicted to spending 60% too much money.

The rich do pay their fair share. Didn't you hear of the rich Arab prince who paid 600 million for a yacht?

it is easy for liberals to say the rich don't pay their fair share when those liberals also refuse to define what they mean by fair share