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To follow up on a previous question about abortion, how would a "rape" exemption work?
I'm an atheist and I'm pro-choice. A prior question was posted by someone who opposes abortion except in three cases, one of which is "rape."
If you agree with this position -- how would this work? I don't see how it would.
If the rapist must be convicted prior to the abortion, then the woman would likely give birth first. On the other hand, if a conviction is not required, what would prevent a woman from simply lying?
If you don't agree -- why should the government be permitted to tell a potential rape victim that she must give birth?
@ A High and Beautiful Wave.…
So your position is that a police incident report would be required (and, I assume, likely an application for criminal complaint). You raise a great point. This would make police less responsive to certain cases.
@ Kyra
"Generally, after a woman is raped, she goes to the hospital where she receives an examination. It can usually be ascertained that she has been assaulted."
In a case of FORCIBLE rape, yes. But what about a woman who has been drugged and raped, i.e., has been a victim of date rape? In addition, what about a girl who is 15 or younger, i.e., statutory rape?
@ Cary
Is your position that a rape victim cannot become pregnant? If not, then what difference does it make that you, Cary, have never met one who was?
@ Spencer
Your response is intelligent and thoughtful. I disagree in only one respect: I do not agree that "[w]hether or not we are justified in doing something is independent of whether we can prove something in court." I do not believe that a decision can be inherently justifiable.
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- 8 years agoFavorite Answer
I've heard this argument since the sixties before abortion. Out of all the abortion cases I've known or have heard of none were because of rape. I've known plenty. I work in a hospital.
- ?Lv 68 years ago
I believe all this person was trying to say was that you would be justified in getting an abortion if you were raped. Whether or not we are justified in doing something is independent of whether we can prove something in court.
Based on how you were interpreting this, though, I don't see how it would work either. If someone had to get some sort of conviction before that person is legally allowed to get an abortion, they would probably already have the baby. That, or it would be way too late to have an abortion.
Now that I think about it I kind of see what you mean. Do you think we have to first provide reasons before a decision is considered "justified?" Or how about this: what if I had done something and I came up with reasons on my own which were good reasons to support the decision...would I at that point be justified, or would I have to present these reasons first?
- 8 years ago
I too believe abortion should be allowed until the end of the first trimester, anyway) in cases of rape.
Generally, after a woman is raped, she goes to the hospital where she receives an examination. It can usually be ascertained that she has been assaulted.
If she waits to report...well, that can be a problem.
- Anonymous5 years ago
I've never said, or heard any pro-choice person say that abortion isn't negative in any way. EVER. Nor do pro-choice people encourage women to get pregnant so they can experience the joys of abortion. Fact of the matter is, unwanted pregnancy is a very bad state to be in. The way to decrease unwanted pregnancy is through quality, accurate sex education, and easy availability of birth control. That said, (especially given that this country has neither -- mostly due to the same people who oppose abortion), if a girl or woman is in a state of unwanted pregnancy, most Americans believe it should be her decision, not the government's, what to do about it. Criminalizing abortion won't end the practice, it will harm and kill women and girls who get illegal abortions (that is, do more harm than legal abortions do). It also puts females who are already going through hell in an even worse situation than unwanted pregnancy itself. As far as I know, no one supports use of abortion as a form of birth control, and I doubt many women (if any) use it as such. If those who truly wanted to stop abortions would put any effort into promoting birth control, instead of supporting policies that maximize the number of unwanted pregnancies, they'd stop more abortions than they do now.
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- NekoniLv 68 years ago
Well apparently it wouldn't work. Just let everyone abort. World population will keep increasing, don't worry guys.
inb4 thousands of false rape accusations
- sahajrobLv 48 years ago
i believe the thinking is that when you report it and get exam for it
you would be asked something like
'if this results in you being pregnant, would you want to keep the baby?'
if you say no, be given the 'morning after' pill