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? asked in PetsHorses · 8 years ago

Very stubborn "will not budge" mare.?

I have an untrained three year old that I am planning on training soon. Before i start with anything, i want to get her listening to ground commands and lunging. But, problem is she has that "I wont budge unless i want to" attitude. You can literally stand there and crack the whip at her feet even give her a smack on the butt with it and she legit will not move. Shes been lunged before because when we first brought her home my mom lunged her and she went just fine. So its not a matter of her not knowing or understanding. Shes just very stubborn..

Any tips or tricks on how to get this girl moving ?

Update:

First off, she knows basic ground work. As Ive worked with her since day one. She moves off pressure when it is added, moves when you kiss/cluck, and stops when you stop. All while leading. Shes had tack on her before and handled it like a pro.

She was bought from a low end auction barn, only because of how horrid her health was. We knew nothing of her past training as the owner left no information on her, with the sales owner even messing up her breed and age. (Vet clarified) Now, due to how easy putting tack on her was (bit included), not to mention the first time lunging her months ago, its safe to say shes had basic work done before she got here. Ive had my fair share of training horses, all with great outcomes. All of which were happy to move when asked. Ive also had my fair share of trainers, and after watching horses get flipped through walls, or run through closed doors im quite content with training myself. But thanks for that super great suggestion.

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  • ?
    Lv 5
    8 years ago
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    The other answers are correct, but I thought I'd throw in this idea - are you lunging her with tack? Lunge line? Bit/bridle? That very well could be an issue, as could an injury. If she is experiencing pain in a leg or hoof, she's not going to want to move any more than you'd want to go for a run with a sprained ankle or a sharp rock in your shoe. Check her physical condition and tack (if you're using any) and then go from there. Maybe even free lunge to see how she responds with no tack whatsoever, just by answering to your body language.

    Good Luck!:)

    Source(s): Dedicated Rider Non-Professional Horse Trainer/Horseman
  • 8 years ago

    You have done nothing to make your horse respect or trust you. Lunging does not instill trust and respect and I would never lunge a green, untrained horse. You need to work on your relationship and language with your horse, work on putting a foundation on your horse. You need a rope halter and proper lead rope and to get on the ground and teach your horse. You, of course, must have adequate language and communication skills in order to be successful. You can get out of your horse what you put in but you have to have the ability to communicate. Start at the beginning and work through the foundation. Teach all the basics and the more you succeed, the more your horse will respect and trust you. Personally, I do not lunge my horses but in their training, I will eventually teach them sending exercises which engages the body and the mind and has the horse understand when to go away from me and to return upon my request. I prefer this method instead of running a horse in mindless circles. A horse can only do what they know to do. You have said that your horse is untrained so you cannot expect her to "budge" just because someone was able to run her away from them in the past. The last thing I would want from a green, untrained horse is to have them run away from me, not what I want from a horse I am just beginning to train. And your horse is 3 years old and she has not had any training? You are really behind and your task with be much harder because you are so behind in what should be the normal training schedule. This horse should be much more advanced in her basic training but you have to deal with what you presently have. Best of luck.

  • Lilian
    Lv 6
    8 years ago

    I went to look at a horse to buy yesterday and asked the gal to lung him for me. She tried and the horse would just do a stiff front legged rear in front of her of crowd her close or turn the hips to her.

    I asked if she would let me try. I asked if I could hit him (thumbs down from novice riders) Well when I got a hold of his shank he crowded me, I turned the whip around and whopped him hard on the shoulder with the but of the whip he jumped out and circled then turned his butt to me! I slashed him on the hip hard with the whip and he lunged beautifully, would stop and reverse when I asked. He had just put the hoo doo on the owner.

    I would say just make a mark on that horses hinder that would still be there tomorrow and he would probably listen to you when you asked him to move.

  • Finley
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    she's not stubborn, she just doesn't appreciate your idea of training.

    you are way too impatient.

    find a trainer to help you, before you make this horse sour to training.

    sorry to be a downer, but the fact is, too many people just think they can throw their ideas at the horse and voila! the horse will respond.

    well, the horse knows you don't know what you're doing, so she refuses to follow your orders.

    training isn't about giving orders. it's about making requests in a way that gives the horse a chance to think and respond willingly.

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  • 8 years ago

    You are teaching and training a horse everytime you are around it. Sounds like she's got YOU trained lol

  • 8 years ago

    Ask your mom!!!! She lunged her. Listen and watch....for awhile......Im sure SHE can TEACH you if u are willing to really learn.

    Source(s): Professional Jockey
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