Real martial artists with proper techniques in real fight?

Your friends are most likely either at a bad school or just not good at martial arts. They might be at mcdojos, judging from the teachers responses, its supposedly typical at mcdojos that the instructors don't answer questions. So you can't judge by this.

The whole point of learning these techniques, and martial arts in general, is that, when you do get into a fight, you will use the techniques that you learned. It does not have to be the exact technique, and that's fine if its not. It probably won't be. The whole point is that, in a real fight, when someone attacks you, you will know what to do. For example, this could be knowig the correct block to do for their attack, then knowing what strikes to do afterwards. If a martial artist remains calm and has control in a fight, his skills and techiques will be applied. That's the important part - staying calm and in control. That's what will allow him to do the techniques. It's also a lot about reaction. A good martial artist should automatically react to what the opponent does, and his reaction will be the techniques he knows.

Who the hell uses Decent Techniques in real fight. They're the first to lose, it's more common than you think. In a street fight we go Dirty Fighting, base on what we or I learn in Dojo and evolve it into something usable in a street fight. For example spinning back kick, I go straight for the balls with it. Hurts like hell and finish the guy off with just that.

Your "friends" suck, it may not be the Dojo, it's just them. Most people think "I will throw random punches and kicks as long as I hit them". But you have to analyze before you fight. Or during the fight. Let's say This guy throws a lot of jabs and roundhouses, I would dodge back and him leaving an opening I will front kick him in the groin.

Judging at the last paragraph, the "Si Fus" sucked. "Why fight at all?" Really now. "Why fight at all" well that's just stupid. Let's see the Si Fu be like "Why fight at all" when they're getting mugged by 9 black guys.

Any televised combat /fighting sport usually displays the martial art skills which 'work' iand the guys who do it best in that arena.

Also events like the olympics -Judo/TKD disply how martial art skills are applied...however I still do not know what a 'real' fight is.Outside of organised events,pretty much anything goes and survival is all that matters.

If your friend kick and punches randomly he may just need to practice/train on some aspect like range/timing rather than power and speed..but its impossible to say why he does what he does.

This needs some discussion....Lets replicate something....

There is a confrontation and one guy attacks another with a hook punch....The other guy avoids the strike by moving to the side and comes with a series of hammer fists to the head....Is this martial arts or not?...At first that doesn't look that has to do anything with what you are learning in your first days of class....but think again.....and you will find all the movements inside....

Of course the teachers are going to answer back like this, because teenagers tend to think different, while martial arts are not just for street-fighting and they have a generally much better and wiser contexts...They do not want to become just a street-fighting regime....

That does not mean of course that they are not usable for self-defense...

Edit: What you have described of course are not good skills....Lol!!!

OK, you are trying to bring two things together...#1training in a class, and #2real world combat. Ask any soldier to compare training to actual war. When your training your body isn't under stress, its not releasing the "fight or flight" hormones. When your actually fighting your body goes into survival mode, "fight or flight" mode. Its hard to concentrate under this kind of stress. Most people I know when fighting look like they have no idea what they are doing and looks pretty ridiculous. It takes years of training but it is possible to keep your cool and apply what you have learned. Sadly most so called martial arts these days don't train for this, only for tournaments.

There are martial artists that use technique in a fight. Heck, last fight I got in I broke an arm and 2 fingers. Anyways here are a few vids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I_hr2uQClo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPjI63QLbiE

Last video is a demonstration. Notice how much "nicer" the demo is. Most fights do not go like that. In a real fight with the adrenaline pumping, it takes a-lot of will power to stay calm and collected. It's meeting violence with better violence.

Tell your fake master.....

'To become proficient at something we need to understand it and be able to prove or disprove it. By only touching on the theoretical aspect how can one come to understand the art as a whole? Isn't this considered as "barely scratching the surface"? There needs to be balance just like yin and yang. You promote your theories and concept on to us but do you practice what you preach? How strong is your theoretical kung-fu? How strong is your practical kung-fu? How strong is your kung-fu in kung-fu? It's okay to go along with the current but sometimes it's absolutely necessary to go against it. So why is it important to me? Because this is how my foundations are built. I want to know exactly what kind of material are being used to build it. Most importantly.......I'm paying you money dawg."

it's probably because your friends suck or they are at mcdojos. im not going to address kung fu. but karate and taekwondo if taught properly are good arts that if the artist is calm and composed in the fight and uses technique properly will work out.

There's proof. Here's the proof (just remember: people can lie, but video recordings are incapable of lying):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyqYN9YRhUg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paCZAxchmjU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRZSv-u-fZQ

The video recordings prove that martial arts executed PROPERLY work. Your friends probably go to a McDojo. That's why your friends fail at sparring/fighting, and also explains why their teachers refuse to answer simple questions.

Also, from first-hand experience, I can say that traditional martial arts work in real life.

Without knowing or seeing your friend this says a lot about their training or lack thereof. They should have been learning to use correct techniques when training in their schools. Unfortunately too many schools allow students to spar without using good technique. This leads to many bad habits that will only work in tournaments or in their dojo/dojang. Instructors should enforce that student use techniques when learning to spar, etc.