To what extent should we compromise freedom for security? And what if there were no laws?

Those who would give up Essential Liberty

to purchase a little Temporary Safety,

deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -

Ben Franklin

Security without freedom seems almost worthless. True, there are laws in place to prevent murder, theft, or rape, but every culture has these, even under total anarchy there is a difference between right and wrong, and societys with no form of government or police have dealt with these things for thousands of years. Ethics exist no matter whether there is a government or not.

Laws do not nessesarily mean breaching civil liberties but naturally under any government, there will be people who think there are too many laws.

what is being called security is not security because that would imply that it was there to protect people and i have only seen that in rare cases as far as the law goes when it allowed certain people free passes because it was profitable in some way to it or because someone in it did wrong and they made a deal with others to keep it quiet it becomes corrupt it has gone far out of the limits to being productive and as far as i can tell our society is lawless the law is suppose to be there to protect everyone not just certain people or for its benefit the ones who need it the most at times seem to be abused by it in ways you would never think possible ... i have issues because i am not a normal citizen and never been one just forced to live in the fantasy world that others try to produce for people i love the law and i hate it all at the same time i have conflicting emotions over it and other things i myself have internal boundaries that stop me from committing crimes some do not what i think and feel sometimes if different then what id do .....to me the whole world is just completely contradictory to itself and f---ked up i sit here and would never even think of doing half the things others do to each other and i am public put out there unsafe treated as if i am the one with lack of self control basically a prisoner while others have privilege, nice job respect privacy friends, there family etc.. and run around doing whatever to who ever with no re guard for life sucks

Lunt, there should be no law in the world other than love. Freedom should never be compromised for anything; if you behave a certain way, it should be your decision, not something enforced on you. This is freedom.

Anarchy can only happen in one way. By everybody becoming non-authoritarian: neither obeying authority nor trying to dominate others. It is a spreading of truth, love and celebration. First one person learns it, then teaches it to others, and they form a gathering, and this has gone on throughout history and the world has slowly changed.

The vested interests rule by fear. If people are not ruled by fear, nobody can rule over them, and nobody can drag them into a war. Until nations disappear, war will not disappear; but with anarchy, war would disappear automatically.

The implications of a lawless society, or rather- the 'implication' is = total and utter freedom.

Freedom is to have the ability to make every decision yourself, to not be influenced by anything and to have nothing stop you from doing whatever you please. Security however means that certain actions are prohibited, limits are set and freedom cannot prevail in its most raw and fulfilling form. Freedom is meant to run wild, is meant to be unstoppable- however security would be the boulder pressuring the freedom and stopping it from bubbling forth. Thus freedom should not be compromised for anything let alone security. The security that defies the most basic concept of freedom.

Freedom is of no value if we are not safe. A lawless society would be total chaos. I think people worry that they will not get away with all they do if security is tightened.