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Sean asked in Science & MathematicsBiology · 8 years ago

Evolution, Chromosome Fusion, Man & Chimp Question?

I heard something interesting about human evolution in relation to other modern primates.

We all know that Humans have 46 chromosomes and our near relatives such as chimpanzees have 48 chromosomes. Now what I heard was that two chromosomes from our earlier ancestral species had 48 chromosomes and that a pair of chromosomes fused into one large chromosome.

I can sorta buy into that, it's testable, not only that, it's confirmed, so I hear, but I only heard that ">a pair< of chromosomes fused into one," which would have to mean that we should have 47 chromosomes, not 46, SO I AM CLEARLY MISSING SOMETHING!

This proposal would require, it seems to me, TWO SETS (4) of chromosomes fusing into TWO chromosomes, eliminating the ODD NUMBER issue, giving us 46 chromosomes.

The only chromosomes I learned about are the 9th and the 14th ape chromosomes which combined into the human 12th chromosome. What are other two that fused and into what # chromosome?

Update:

Confused Dave is confused. If we have 23 PAIRS of chromosomes, we have 46 chromosomes in total, if we remember our multiplication table. I am aware that we don't have 46 "distinct" chromosomes.

ALSO...

Thanks Formerly Peter S, that makes total sense to me! :-D

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  • 8 years ago
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    Think of it this way.

    Chimps - 24 pairs

    Humans - 23 pairs.

    One pair of the 9th fused with one pair of 14th - one pair lost = now 23 pairs.

  • 8 years ago

    You are missing something.

    The autosomes come in pairs, one from the maternal line and one from the paternal line. Humans don't have 46 distinct chromosomes, we have 23 pairs. There isn't a "chromosome 39" or "chromosome 41" in humans - the chromosome numbers only go up to 23.

    Since this is a pretty rare event, it's pretty much a given that it only happened once. That means that there was probably a while where you had individuals with one "conjoined" chromsome and one pair of separate chromsomes. This kind of mismatch can cause problems during meiosis, but if the chromsomes themselves are similar enough, it probably won't make as much difference as you might think. It's likely (although not definite - neutral changes can become fixed in populations) that the fused chromsomes conferred some kind of slight selective advantage over the separate chromsomes, because eventually the fused form displaced the separate ones. But yeah, between chimps and humans, this only happened once.

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