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Would this be a legal gun modification?
Perhaps you've seen these Ruger Charger pistols, based on the 10/22 action but with a short barrel and no buttstock. Would it be legal to modify such a gun to look like a crudely cut-down 10/22? It would be for use as a movie prop gun.
On a related subject, does anyone know where I might be able to find a nickel-plated 12-gauge single-shot shotgun? Again, it's for prop use.
To clarify, what I'd have in mind for the Charger is modifying the stock to make it look cut up. Since it would have3 been originally made as a pistol, would the NFA '34 requirements still apply? Thanks for the suggestion about the Rossi and the silver paint, though.
A nickel-plated SXS Stoeger- hmmm.
So cutting up the receiver deactivates a gun in the eyes of BATFE? I'm finding out more than I asked for. I don't want to fart around with full-auto, or the penalties that come with that.
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- GlacierwolfLv 78 years agoFavorite Answer
I have built short barrel rifles and am familiar with the desires of the NFA Branch.
If you start with a Charger - you may not add a stock. Go toss on a scope, holo sight, laser, flashlight, a longer barrel, even a rifle barrel if you want....... but to remain a pistol it cant have a shoulder stock. Adding a stock makes it into a short barrel rifle - although legal in 39 or so states, you cant make these mods without having an approved NFA Form 1 and paying the $200 tax stamp.
You can buy used and 'take off' 10/22 stocks on ebay.com and gunbroker.com for cheap. Also at the Equipment Exchange at www.ar15.com in the Ruger 10/22 section. Nothing says you can't cut one of these into a crude pistol grip and use that as your prob....... if you have a charger pistol to start with you should be fine. Me - I would keep the sales receipt and the factory Charger stock with me when you have this bastard stock on your pistol.... it will make a cop laugh and walk away instead of curious about if he has a federal case on his hands!
Paladin Press published, "The Ruger 10/22 Exotic Weapons System' nearly two decades ago with project ideas to turn the 10/22 into full auto machine guns and even select fire for 3 round burst. You can find copies used on Ebay or order it from Amazon or Palidin Press. You should get one. If tricking out a 10/22 is an integral part of your story line....... a few takes showing the book, tools, and pieces of metal and gun parts - will explain how your character took a 10/22 and turned it into a full auto weapon. That book is money well spent for preppers.
- stormgaleLv 68 years ago
for the 10/22, it depends on the state you live in since some allow it and some don't. if you added a shoulder stock to a pistol, you're making it a SBR and need to pay a $200 tax to the ATF and register it as a SBr. the same thing would happen if you took a 10/22 and cut the barrel down to below 16" and/or made the overall gun shorter than 26". you might be able to get away with it if you could get the gun deactivated and then modify it since it's not longer functional, so it bypasses the law(I've heard of people doing this with older machine guns, ect). as for your shotgun, just get a cheap rossi shotgun and take some silver spray paint to it. there are some nickel plated(or they look like it) single shot shotguns on the market, but they go for $300+.
- 8 years ago
Well as long as the modified Ruger Charger still fits within the legal specifications of a pistol I don't see where you'd be breaking any laws, check your state laws just to make sure.
As for the nickel plated shotgun you will probably be able to find a cheap shotgun and send it out for a plating job.
- Mr.357Lv 78 years ago
If it had a butt stock on the receiver, according to the ATF, it will forever be a rifle and you would need a SBR tax stamp to make it look like a handgun or shorten the barrel very much.. If you make three diagonal torch cuts at least 1/4" wide in the receiver, it is no longer a firearm and you can do what ever you want to do with it.
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- SquiggyLv 78 years ago
As the Charger is sold as a HANDGUN, the 18" minimum parrel length shouldn't apply. I've seen plenty of examples of people badly botching attempts to cut down their own handgun barrels, and shoulder stocks have been available for handguns for decades. SO, be sure you start with a Charger and go to town!
Since you can buy a nickel Stoeger right off the shelf, you might start there. I know it's a SxS, but it would sure be easier!