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Would you ever buy a guitar with the intention of stripping it down for parts?
Okay, I've asked similar questions before, and I've seen a lot of noobs asking similar questions.
I am well aware that I'm not going to buy a cheap guitar and swap out parts to make it equal to a top of the line guitar, that isn't my goal here.
I ran across a guitar at a music store today that I thought was really quirky and cool. Only one problem: I absolutely HATED the neck on it. It had way too small of a fretboard radius (9.5") and the finish on the frets was atrocious (felt like a saw blade when I ran my hand up the neck). But the body itself is really cool and has exactly the pickup configuration I prefer (humbucker in the bridge and a slanted single coil in the neck). I didn't plug it in, but since it's a $200 Squier I'm operating on the assumption that the pickups are probably garbage as well.
Here's a link to the guitar in question: http://www.fender.com/squier/series/vintage-modifi...
I can get that guitar for $200, and I can get a neck for it made to my specs. I can also get a new humbucker for the bridge if the stock one isn't to my liking. I could also conceivably swap out the bridge for a better one, but I don't see that as being necessary unless I discover a problem with it. I see no real reason to change any of the wiring unless there is a major issue with its quality (unlikely).
My question is: If you really liked the body of a guitar but almost nothing else about it, would you bother going to the effort to make it something you would want to play?
It's kind of a rhetorical question, because I've almost decided that I'm going to do it. Just wondering if anyone else would bother.
Oh, and I can also do the work myself, so I won't have to pay a tech to do it for me.
I can get a neck from ebay for around $40. A bridge from Carvin for about $45, and if I can't afford a high dollar pickup, I can get one of those from Carvin for $45. New tuners will cost me $39.
So, since I can do all the work myself that comes to $369 for a much better version of a guitar that most places sell for $279 (it's on sale at the store I found it at, reduced from $279)
Carvin makes pretty high quality parts. They're the same parts they put on their custom guitars. They only sell factory direct, so there is no retail markup on their prices. Double the cost of all the Carvin parts I listed and that's what it would cost you for equivalent parts from a retail store.
The neck would be used, I found one that came off a mid 80's Charvel for about $40. I looked into custom necks and decided there is no way I'm paying $300 for a neck.
Here, to end the "low quality parts" assumption, an in-stock guitar from Carvin that includes the bridge I would purchase and the bridge pickup: http://www.carvinguitars.com/guitars-in-stock/1144...
Russell: I'm not necessarily looking for a WIDER neck, just a flatter fretboard. The width of the neck is fine, I'd just prefer one with less arch on the fretboard itself. The only real requirement is that the heel of the neck has to fit the body.
I'd love to just buy a better guitar to begin with, but money's tight so that isn't an option for me. I can do this a little bit at a time as I have the money for parts (after the initial investment for the guitar).
Okay, I've pretty much decided I'm going to do it. Thanks for all the advice. I'll be sure to let you guys know how it turns out when I get it done, and try to post some sound clips so you can hear how it turned out (since sound is so much more important than appearance).
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- ?Lv 77 years agoFavorite Answer
Hi, 'C. I've bought a few used ones over the years that needed some work, but never a new one with the intent of replacing much of it. I would never buy one with a bad neck, but then I never learned how to replace one. Sloppy tuners, tired bridge or non-adjustable bridge, noisy pots, etc., sure. The other pact I made with myself was only buying with money I made performing. Unlike photographic gear, fast cars, motorcycles, and guns, playing was actually the only passion I had that could pay its way. Never did get some I always kinda wanted, like a twelve-string acoustic, or a Rickenbacker electric.
Your skills in this area are greater than mine, but, if you haven't checked them out (like for neck work), hit this:http://www.superpages.com/bp/Lincoln-NE/London-Str...
Hope you and yours have a happy holiday season!
- Anonymous7 years ago
It would depend on the quality of the body, the price and what I intended doing with it.
The thing is, you're paying $200 (or just under) for a whole guitar that's worth $200 (or just under) and then scrapping most of it. In a guitar like that, everything is going to be of, more or less, the same quality. You might like the look of the body and fittings but they're not going to be great quality.
Having a neck made to your specifications, replacing the pick up (just one of them?), possibly replacing the bridge, and new tuners(?) are going to cost a LOT more than the cost of the original guitar and you are still going to have a "budget" body and a guitar that's worth very little, far less than the money you've spent.
It would be different if I already had a spare neck and maybe other parts, but a project like this can swallow a lot of money!
Edit: I see you've had second thoughts: there's a world of difference between buying a cheap second-hand neck from ebay for $40 and having one made to your own specifications! You take a gamble that you like the "new" neck better than the one already to the guitar and that it can be fitted without too many problems. The link leads to the Carvin website rather than to a particular guitar. I'm not familiar with Carvin guitars (I've heard of them of course) but I wouldn't expect a great deal from those componants judging from the prices you quote. I would say make sure that your replacements are better quality than the tuners, bridge and pick up(s) already there.
- Russell ELv 77 years ago
A few comments.
I'm surprised you didn't like the neck. It's a maple neck and those are usually very smooth, even on the Squier.
Second, a $40 neck on ebay is going to be way worse that the existing one, and they all have 9.5 radius.
If you are looking for a wider, flatter neck, try this place
http://www.bhefner.com/index.php?l=product_detail&...
The bridge is fine, no need to swap that out. Same with the tuners.. The wiring is fine, you might want to swap the volume and tone pots. The squier pots are a little unresponsive and the gradations of volume aren't as smooth.
If you are looking for a wider flatter neck, then Fender guitars are not a choice for you. Look at Ibanez or something
But to answer the question....NO, I would never buy any guitar that I was going to have to replace everything on to make it "playable" to my needs.
I actually like the 7.25 radius. better than 9.5. I hate Ibanez necks. So it is a matter of personal preference. I have pretty tiny hands for a man.
but why buy a guitar for $200 and then spend $400 on upgrade parts? Just buy a good guitar to start with.
Source(s): 44 yrs guitarist/former pro musician - HarryLv 77 years ago
Agree with most everyone here.
If you are really itching to build a guitar (and not from a poor quality body), I would really recommend a kit guitar from scratch... and have a complete custom from start to finish with all the components in place, new and compatible.
You are basically doing it all, just shy of a good body to work with in the first place. Always look under (try to) the painted surface.
But each to their own... and learning by doing can have the best lessons to come and discover true reality checks in the process.
(p.s.: As long as I have known you and what you've contributed over time, of the other members around here... I am surprised you came up with such a question too.)
Source(s): 48 years guitar and keyboard player (with a small wood shop) piano and organ - M OLv 67 years ago
I would, actually do that. There are actually entire guitar models that are popular for "upgrading". The Epiphone Les Paul models, particuliarly the lower end ones like the Special are pretty popular for just replacing the tuners and pick ups, and getting a pretty good foreign made bolt on for comparatively cheap.
I would be careful about how many upgrades you are making though, because at some point, it just makes more sense to buy the more expensive model.
- OU812Lv 77 years ago
Nothing worng with that, but at the prices you're listing for parts it sounds like you are putting pretty low quality "upgrades" on it. Most likely of lower quality than what comes on it stock. But if you have used these in the past and are happy with them then go for it. I've found the Classic Vibe and Vintage Modified series to have very good components from the factory.
- Teddy BarrettLv 67 years ago
I could tell you some things about doing that but suffice it to say if you do you would be walking into a mine field of question marks concerning all kinds of compatability issues. like the difference between millimeters and inches. so if you do hit one of those mines then remember what I said. most squires are for small handed people so that is normal to find. replacing the neck takes careful measurements, proceed slowly
- 7 years ago
Don't even get me started, I use to have an old Tiesco I bought for 50 bucks, almost nothing on it is stock, actually its still mine but my kid is holding it hostage somewhere in Europe at the moment, along with a few other of my guitars. Momma always said your chickens come home to roost.
- ?Lv 77 years ago
Creating what I call a "Johnny Cash guitar," reminiscent of his song about a Cadillac being built from differently manufactured spare parts, could be a sound investment on your part.
Why not do it? If you have the technical expertise, as you say you do, then you have my vote. Your creation could become your best guitar ever.
Source(s): Guitar player since 1956