Is "hating the sin, but loving the sinner" much like hating the rape but loving the rapist?

Yes, it is. If that is the Christian philosophy, then you have to carry it all the way through all sins and all sinners. That would include rape. But I don't feel that love the sinner, hate the sin is a viable philosophy, even for Christians. I feel that it's wrong. Here is a link to that shows how such a philosophy came into being and why it is just plain wrong.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/phoenixandolivebranch...

Auntie Kookoo

I don't like Charles Finney, but I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day...

"God is not angry merely against the sin abstracted from the sinner, but against the sinner himself. Some persons have labored hard to set up this ridiculous and absurd abstraction, and would fain make it appear that God is angry at sin, yet not at the sinner. He hates the theft, but loves the thief. He abhors adultery, but is pleased with the adulterer. Now this is supreme nonsense. The sin has no moral character apart from the sinner. The act is nothing apart from the actor.

The very thing that God hates and disapproves is not the mere event--the thing done in distinction from the doer; but it is the doer himself. It grieves and displeases Him that a rational moral agent, under His government, should array himself against his own God and Father, against all that is right and just in the universe. This is the thing that offends God. The sinner himself is the direct and the only object of his anger.

So the Bible shows. God is angry with the wicked [Psalm 7:11], not with the abstract sin. If the wicked turn not, God will whet His sword--He has bent His bow and made it ready--not to shoot at the sin, but the sinner--the wicked man who has done the abominable thing. This is the only doctrine of either the Bible or of common sense on this subject" Charles Finney (The Guilt of Sin).

Hardly. Rape is an evil crime. a sin is not an evil crime. And all I know is I am not Jesus so I sure don't love the sinner, I can see loving a person once they have been redeemed, but one who is bad and shows no remorse, I see no reason to love them, they chose to be rotten. let them live with the consequences.

Yes it is. But this is a very evil and potentially self destructive sin that might cause the sinner to be condemened by God into hell. For some commit crimes so rvil, That God himself cannot forgive one for the sin, even though Jesus Christ sacrifice paid for the sin. God might over-ride that salvation. Keep the sins small.

You are right. the person who said your logic is horrible just questioned their faith and is lashing out lol. the person who said rape isn't a sin is kinda right. if you rape a woman its ok if you get her pregnant as long as you marry her. although sex before marriage is a sin. i don't think a man would rape his wife. so we may as well stop cutting hairs rape is just bad. also to the person who said "thats like saying 'we shouldn't hate our kids for being bad but love them since they're our kids" well guess what. rape is committed by men who were once kids. so your logic is invalid. besides don't try to make it literal its a point and with a good analogy.

Yes, we are commanded to forgive as God has forgiven us. Someone who blatantly is defiant to God as homosexuals and rapists are does not mean we partner with them, we let God judge. But IF they take the name of a Christian, make no mistake we can judge them by that defiance.

The problem with that saying is that the sin is in the warp and woof of the sinner, he is nothing but sin.

.... for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth;

Genesis 8:21 (KJV)

They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Romans 3:12 (KJV)

It's a copout to accuse a non-believer of being evil but not being held accountable for it.

Sort of like "(Insert offensive accusation here) but no offense..."

Technically, but I doubt they think of it in that way. Mainly because rape is not a sin.

How about if it is your child doing something wrong? Do you hate his actions but love him as your son?