Does the complexity of organic life imply some kind of rational design?

Not at all. Do some study in the field of Darwinian Evolution. Read Stephen Jay Gould and Richard Dawkins.

It's the big mistake to look at current organisms and think... "Wow, this is so perfectly formed! It must have been designed!"

In doing so, you have forgotten about the billions of years of evolution that preceded today's organisms, including us.

The contemporary human ear is a marvel. Complex arrangement of bones and nerves and channels. But it's all gradual adaptation from structures that existed many millions of years ago... The jaw structures of the first bony fish.

It's the same with all other modern biological structures. They are all adapted from earlier structures... Formed in the crucible of natural selection over "deep" time.

i always try to think about things from an unbiased viewpoint (regardless of my personal "opinions").

that being said, i often muse about how evolution is not outside of a "rational design" possibility. that is, even if a god of some sort created...everything, he may well have done so with evolution. there is some possibility for this, as the (Christian) Bible says the world was created in 6 days, but an "Earth day" was not possible until like the 3rd of 4th "day". also, the Bible says that to God, "...a day is as a thousand..." which would certainly leave room for the theory of evolution.

still, i don't like to change my mind until i have definitive proof, and not just "theories" or "heritage". in the meantime, i'll simply go with the belief system that has the best odds of being right...

At the moment of eruption of space-time, emergence of intelligent life was already inevitable, causality-wise. Intelligent life exists because the nature of our universe includes emergence of life, not by chance, rather by imperative.

Some liken it onto throwing bunch of silicon and plastic into a bin, and in time the atoms assembling themselves into a fully-functional computer with an operating system, "you know, by chance". Anyway, can intelligent life emerge without intelligent design, "you know, by chance"? It is more sensible to assume existence emerged from nonexistence, and even that is impossible, as something always must exist else it can never be existence if at any moment there is discontinuity involving state of absolute nonexistence even if briefly. There was always existence in one form or another, which is why default state of reality is existence. There is always intelligence, even if in potential form at space-time eruption yielding inevitable emergence "later". Was there intelligence before space-time? What does it even mean "before" when time does not apply to "before", yet existence always is, even "before" time, existence is. Emergence of intelligence is inevitable when time is involved. Emergence is a function of time, intelligence involves existence, combination of the two apply to our universe, and again, "what" exists "beyond" we have no means to measure from within, we can only speculate. -Pat.

i believe so. the enormous complexity or the eyeball for example is far to intricate for

evolution to have created.

It is possible -- I try to never forget the fact that my mind would be like the mind of rock compared to God... just remember how stup1d we are but too each-other we find some smart and some as fools based on our relative judgments

God could be a conscious universe for all we know, or existing in another dimension that we cannot perceive -- just looking at the universe tells that it is simply amazing - neither rational nor creative, just perfect!

edit: where has rational thinking got anyone, do you understand that imagination and the possibilities are much more important than what we 'know', what we can see and feel and touch and taste? Do you understand that there could be things that are too hard for you to comprehend? String theory predicts 11 dimensions (I think string theory is BS but you get my point, IT IS SCIENCE)... you need to keep an open mind, that is how science advances, nothing comes from rational thinking, it comes from imagination and innovation which is what real science is all about! Even Albert Einstein thought of the universe itself in its beauty and natural design is what is define as 'God'... rational thinking alone got people no where besides a boosted ego and a social group of fake and phony intellectuals who sit around internet forums all day arguing about BS

Science is much more than this..

As if we would know. We don't. No one does.

Gen.

Get over it. There is no big mommy-daddy ion the sky.

The universe is what it is because it happens. The basic conditions for complexity are established by polar molecules that form from atoms with an odd number of electrons. Under the right conditions, this complexity becomes self-replicating.

The rest is all about what any of us do with our limited ability to be rational.

No - the theory of evolution comprehensively covers the process of developing complexity.

If you have to invent a beard in the sky then the regression of "what created the beard" comes into play.

Either there is a God which wishes to give no evidence of itself or there is no God - either way ignore God.

For sure we are not the controller.

lol

no

theres no gods