Did the reformation hurt Christendom?

Yes of course it did. it divided the Church and started tens of thousands of schisms with each person believing that they have the authority to follow their itching ears instead of Jesus, His Church and the Bible.

When Secular Humanism replaced Scholasticism as the popular philosophy of the time there became an increasing desire to follow one's own desires and lusts free from the restraints of the teaching of Jesus and the disciples through the Church. This was aided by the lust of power by the European princes that was usurped by the Church. An alliance formed for these complimentary goals between the Secular Humanists and the princes to usurp the Church's influence on society.

The reformers, Luther, Zwingli, Calvin and et al. labored to form a pseudo-christian faith that focused on God serving man instead of the teaching of Jesus and the disciples through the Church which taught that it is man that serves God instead. The reformers strive for a syncretic blending of Secular Humanism and Christianity and the princes were more than happy to support their efforts out of greed. While this greed motivated the political powers it was pride and arrogance that motivated the reformers and made them feel that they could construct a alternative faith to the faith founded by Jesus and the disciples to one founded upon their own desires and in many cases their own lust for power which was the case with Calvin and his theocracy in Geneva. Instead of Christianity being an obstacle for their ambitions they twisted its teaching to be an asset and a means to their goals.

From the more spiritual aspect of this movement it was a very clever approach from the enemy of the truth of the Christian faith which is Satan who certainly is the author of the confusion that was born of the Reformation or the rebellion from the Church. Because the cry of the Protestants now was for God to serve humanity because God owes humanity devotion. This is contrary to the cry of the faithful for the previous 1500 years of "let thy will be done and not thine".

The fruit of the Protestant movement is over 30,000 different ecclesiastical groups each claiming their own version of truth and each possessed by their own heresy which grows at a exponentially increasing rate. Protestantism is a diluting and obscuring of the truth contained in the teaching of the Church with a focus on man and his desires instead of man serving the will of God. In Protestantism man does not have to humble themselves before their creator but instead take pride in their own creation which usurps the work of Christ. May the Lord have mercy on them. God bless!

In Christ

Fr. Joseph

Jesus' Church isn't the Catholic or Protestant Church; it's the Body of Christ, which has many, individual members. The best thing that came from it, was the Bible being brought into the light for the common person to have; both Protestants and Catholics benefit greatly from it.

So very sad that the Catholics have been brain washed. Jesus began his church long before the Roman Universal Catholic Church was organized. Constatine the Great, Emperor of Rome, organized the Catholic Church in 325 AD. The Christians following the ascent of Jesus was turning the world upside down, while being persecuted by Jews and Rome Pagans. The Catholics became the state church under Constantine and were charged with making all Roman Empire citizen catholic. They murdered over 50 million true Christians who had to hid to be safe. Thousands of Muslims and Jews were also murdered by the dominant church.

The reformation broke the power and control from the Roman Universal Catholic Church and the emergence of the true Christians began, and the true bible distributed to the man on the street, reenforcing the beliefs of the true Christians and multiplying their numbers. The Catholics while still powerful, is a big question to the world---trying to be Christian yet forcing people to their belief, ignoring the need of education in most countries it dominates as the state church or by numbers rather than educate the masses. It is easier to control uneducated people. So the reformation was better for the Christians than was the dominance of the Catholics.

I was baptized Christian Roman Catholic, and I don't apologize to no one...Since the 3rd. grade I have been taught in the Catholic Roman Church's Schools, to the 12th grade, yet, except for some priest (Father Peter), teachings which I remember to this day, "The Way Of The Cross and why Jesus Christ died for a sinner such as I" and receiving Holy Communion in the Words Of Jesus Christ,"This IS My Body, This IS My Blood for The Forgiveness of Sin, do this in Memory of Me, and whose sins YOU forgive, They are forgiven, whose sins YOU retain they are retained." He spoke to the 11 and not to the false apostle, Judas, who went out the door, have you gone out the door? Jesus, speaking to the whole, HIS Church, said,"By this will the world know that you are MY Disciples, by the LOVE, that ye have for ONE ANOTHER..." "BY their FRUITS, you WILL know them." "If YOU, Love ME, KEEP MY WORDS, keep MY Commandments, and abide in ME, and MY Father AND I will come and SUP with YOU, AND you with US." Anything else,"I would that you'd be hot or cold, (IN or OUT), for if you are lukewarm, I will spew you out of MY Mouth..." Hear Jesus Christ not men,"The GOSPEL, the POWER OF GOD UNTO SALVATION." There IS NO OTHER TRUTH ON EARTH, Jesus Christ,"Heaven and earth SHALL PASS AWAY, but MY WORDS SHALL NOT PASS AWAY."

Is there things that men of the Catholic Church would change? Yes, not any dogma, but in the credo, say THE CHRISTIAN Catholic Church, for many not know the dictionary says; catholic is Greek, for Christian Catholic and the trouble makers, full of division, tell the Catholic that he is not Christian, that they may pry their heresy on them. Jesus Christ said,"Without ME, you can do NOTHING." So, why not say,

The Christian Catholic Church, and defeat the enemy at the core? Or say, The Christian Roman Catholic Church, though I wonder, to whom do we owe the dept of our Believes too? ROMAN MAN, or Jesus Christ? I would the world would take it hands off His Church in every way. But then the Apostles did not named themselves, The Jerusalem Catholic Church, did they? And they had the first opportunity to do so by 312 years but then why argue with unreasonable men whose trust is in power and might and forsake "The Manner Of Spirit". Let every man, you and me be liars, but GOD BE TRUE...according to The Testimony of Jesus Christ which The Holy Spirit Brings to our remembrance as Jesus Christ said...

I wish Catholics would quit their hate to the KJV Bible and respect what has been said by Jesus Christ...

But then I guess they need to justify the burning of Tyndale at the stake... There have been rascals as Popes and also Protestant Evangelists but you don't throw the baby out with the dirty water and become a hater of the WORD OF GOD, which IS TRUE and every man a liar that IS contrary to the WORD of God...

In any case, let's be doers of The Word Of God and NOT hearers ONLY...And let's remember that it is God that judges according to HIS WORD, Jesus Christ Lord of Lords. Do not call Good, evil nor evil, Good...

Do not hate the ignorant nor the innocent...For when is Amazing Grace, but when it is undeserved, therefore let's be merciful men...

Whenever anyone believes in a "personal" god they tend to make that god in their own image. Hence, why you have so many interpretations of what people deem as the "truth". Besides, a "personal" god doesn't make sense. If it did, then why are there earthquakes that kill people? Why are people dying from diseases and illness? Does this "personal" god enjoy seeing that? This conscious god?

Education hurts Christendom. Yes.

Not only that, but the first Protestant was completely psychotic: Martin Luther. He sounds like the opposite of Christ if you read some of his writings.

•“If we condemn thieves to be hanged, burglars to the scaffold, and heretics to the fire, why should we not use all our weapons against these doctors of perdition, these cardinals, these popes, the whole sequel of the Roman Sodom, so that they will not corrupt the Church of God? Why should we not wash our hands in their blood?” (13)

•“Christ committed adultery first of all with the women at the well of Jacob

•“Certainly God is great and almighty, good and merciful and all that one can imagine in this sense, but He is stupid.”

"God always acts like a madman.”

I think if there were ever a legitimate candidate for the ant-christ in both words and actions it would be Luther.

In personal notebooks written by Luther, recently discovered and studied by Fr. Theobald Beer, who published a book on the topic, the heresiarch affirmed that Christ is simultaneously God and Satan, good and evil.

Luther professed a Gnostic and heretical dualism. The Protestants ignore these writings of Luther, and the few preachers who know them, hide them.

Luther blamed God for all crimes of History and affirmed that Judas had no option but to betray Christ, just as Adam did. For God had already determined who would be sinners.

And to add on top of this the Protestant Reformation started on Halloween when Luther posted his theses on the Whittenburg church.

Here is the facemask of the " hero" that "stood up" to the Catholic Church. Looks like evil eyes if you ask me.

http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/e043-Bl...

Power with greed always hurts someone. For that reason, Christ said that He will set us free. "Those whom God sets free are free indeed." Even a Catholic Pope can become a Dictator. After all a pope is just a man.

Check out your history again. The Roman Catholic church adopted almost all of Martin Luther's manifest, and survives today. I would think that only a small percentage of Protestants handle snakes and gargle in tongues...Happy couple of days after Pentecost by the way. Now, most Protestants, including me, believe there is a God. His only son is Jesus the Christ whose life and death were and are dedicated to the salvation of Mankind. Have I missed something? Must I take orders from a really good man in Rome? (Francis is my kind of Pope. I pray for him.) Must I light candles and burn incense and confess my sins to another flawed human being, or may I go to God directly?

You write of Protestant hierarchy. What about all the offices etc in the Roman Catholic church? You've got a Pope, Cardinals, Arch-Bishops, Bishops, Monsignors and maybe others of which I don't know.

No. Today churches help bring a church that is going astray back into line. They all complain and the church starts to conform.

Both Catholic and Protestant churches are equally to blame for the squabbling done today.

The Catholic Church invented the University system. You need some education