You often hear the phrase catholics and christians, considering catholics were the original christians and the?

If you include the Orthodox churches in the term "catholic" meaning 'universal' that could be ok (the dogma & traditions are essentially the same), but they are not Protestant.

How about just everyone is Christian, since they all follow the teachings of Christ?

Only small groups of fanatical funDs like to claim that "Catholics are not Christians" and spread a lot of lies about what Catholics do and don't do. None of the other Christian denominations waste so much time bashing Catholics. I guess they were never taught that lying is a sin.

Roman Catholics were not, by some 300 plus years, the first Christians however, Roman Catholics are and were the first state recognized and state organized Christian faith with codified and canonized scriptures. Such shows a significant difference from being the "first Christians"....

The first Christian communities were a disjointed lot wherein the teachings and beliefs of each community often varied greatly from one another with some accepting and some denying the divinity of Yeshua bin Yusuf, with differing "Gospels" and scriptures, etc. The various communities often fought with one another and even denied that the other communities were actually "Christian" at all, often seeing one another as heretics or worse...

That "Christians" are still arguing and judging one another over such is a clear demonstration of how unChristian they all actually are and how little they know of the historical and factual development of their supposed "faith"...... They all seem to have forgotten "judge not lest ye shall also be so judged"....and the part about taking the plank out of one's own eye before trying to take the splinter out of the eye of another....

Totally false claim!

Christian churches existed at the time of Christ!

MATTHEW 18:20 "For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them."

The English word "church" is derived from the Greek word kyriakon, which means something belonging to the Lord.

"`Church' in the New Testament, however, renders Greek ekklesia, which mostly designates a local congregation of Christians and never a building.

It was long after the crucifixion that the Romans hijacked Chrsitianity and renamed it the Holy ROMAN Catholic Church not in the Holy Land but entirely based in ITALY

Worse they worship in defiance of the bible!

Thou shall have no other gods! Exodus 20:2-3, Exodus 23:13, Exodus 23:24, Exodus 23:32, Exodus 34:14.

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. (Exodus 20:4-6)

So it matters not whether Mary and the Saints are worshipped as gods, idols, intermediaries or anything else it still goes against God's direct orders!

Catholics keep trying to claim only they can be Christian and that is why Christianity has been split into over 39,500 different denominations, sects and cults setting Christian against Christian and Christians against everyone else!

God's work? Hardly!

It must be the Devil and the Antichrist working together to divide, conquer and destroy Christianity from the inside!

No - and you are mistaken - or uninformed

There was no catholic assembly until the 4th century AD

The first church was at Jerusalem. The apostles were its foundation.

Act 8:1 And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.

And see this

Act 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

That was first century AD and the place was Antakya Turkey - not Rome

As an Orthodox Christian i'd say we're the original Christians-

we didn't alter the creed and other things the other guys changed

so by not saying Catholic, Protestant and Orthodox Christians

I'm offended because you have forgot about us.

You don't have to agree with me on the schism of 1054-

but please don't forget about us.

If Catholics aren't Christians then no one is. IF the Catholics didn't preserve all the writings from the apostles and Paul then not one of you would have Bibles to thump. Who do you think compiled all the original gospels and handcopied them over and over? The Baptists? The Calivinists? lol

The printing press wasn't invented until the mid-1500s.

The revisionist history you folks come up with is also pretty funny. You all want to justify your own propaganda.

Just an FYI... all the Catholic bashing just makes you and all of Christianity look pathetic. You are not supposed to "judge' yet you do. You are not supposed to lie, but you do. You are supposed to love one another, but clearly you don't. What a bunch of hypocrites.

I've never heard the phrase catholics and Christians. Yes, they ARE referred to as catholics and protestants.

Catholics and the Orthodox are the only Apostolic churches as they are the only ones following the traditions of passed down from the Apostles and the early Christians. Anyone who tells you otherwise is ignorant of history and blinded by the lies they have been told. Thats why you see questions all the time accusing Catholics of being idol worshipers and worshipers of the Virgin Mary, neither of which are true and are absolutely lies. Catholic is a synonym for Christian as they were used interchangeably by the early church. Protestants started calling Catholics, Roman Catholics as a derogatory term to associate them with the Roman Empire. Technically speaking there are no Roman Catholics, those that are often called Roman Catholics are properly called Latin Catholics as they follow the Latin rite. Although the Latin rite is by far the largest of the rites there are other types of Catholics such as Byzantine Catholic all of which are apart of the Catholic Church.

It should probably be "Catholics and non-Catholic Christians".

Not all NCCs consider themselves Protestants.

Someone could say "Christians (incl Catholics)".

It should probably be "Catholics and non-Catholic Christians".

Not all NCCs consider themselves Protestants.

Someone could say "Christians (incl Catholics)".

In 380 C.E. the Edict of Thessalonica made Catholic Christianity the state church of the Roman Empire. That can reasonably be considered the true beginning of Catholicism.

Later, something called the Reformation came along, and Protestantism offered Christians a more sensible alternative.

All remained Christian though.

Why is Protestantism more sensible than Catholicism? An easy one! Just

put a cross beside a crucifix and the difference will jump out at you.