"Gelding" acts like a stallion? Help?

Melinda,

Was he bred when he was intact?

Gelding only removes the testicles not the brain. This is what my vet explained when we had a QH like this. He has memories and acts on them.

There is another issue, which is one or more retained testicles. You can read about this here http://csu-cvmbs.colostate.edu/Documents/Learnstal...

This condition makes the horse very dangerous for certain people to handle, young people who are not able to physically handle a rank horse, inexperienced handlers who are unaware of breeding behavior, and even experienced riders that are not familiar with breeding behavior. These people are likely to be endangered because they are unable to recognize and the behavior quickly and react appropriately, also they tend to think the horse is a gelding so it should not be a problem. Then they get hurt, sometimes badly.

As to him pulling and overpowering you that is another matter. That is ground manners and he has none obviously.

For your safety, you should not be handling this horse!

Moving him to a pasture with only other geldings is the only wise option. Mares must be far enough away that they can not be seen, smelled, or heard.

Then get a vet check to see what his real problem is.

If he is just a rank gelding he needs a new home with someone who can deal with his mental issues.

Take heart. This is not all bad. Bozo was a GREAT barrel horse and a rank gelding. He "found" a home with a lady that could handle him and bring out his talent. It is not safe for you to keep a horse that could easily injure you and you are not doing the horse justice either.

PS, a great many stable facilities run mares and geldings together. This is a common and accepted practice. We did it for years and ended up with several crippled horses from geldings squabbling over mares. When we put them in well separated pastures the injury rate went to zero. A lot of top trainers will disagree with this but the stats speak louder than the trainers.

He may be crypt (has a testicle stuck up in there) or he may be proud-cut. That's when a gelding is done incorrectly and part of the testicle or even a tiny little bit of material is left up in there, so he continues to feel like a stallion.

First, have the vet check him out. He'll probably need a tranq, and the vet can stick his fingers in there and feel around.

I had an ancient paint "gelding" that was a rescue who had been so starved, he actually pulled his testicles back inside him!

Does he actually mount mares?

Once he has seen a vet, then you can work with a trainer to sort him out.

I had a TB that was freshly gelded and off the track. We turned him out with the most vicious little BLM lead mare. She knocked his butt down a few rungs!

Either way, you should get some professional help. Treat him as a stallion, with a breezeway of 10 feet or more between him and mares. Because if he can impregnate someone, there could be trouble!

Yes, it's VERY possible he was drugged when you tried him. Happens A LOT.

My husbands horse is a 9 year old Arabian/Tennessee Walker Half Arabian who also acts studdy even though he is a gelding. He only does it though, when he is around mares. He is being protective and tried to herd the mare away from my arab gelding who even if he only looks at her, gets chased away and given the "Ugly Face' by my husbands Half Arabian. I don't know why the horse does it, but it could be that he is just too used to having his 'herd' and possibly moving him to his own paddock would be best. I know you say he freaks out, but after a few weeks he should settle in so long as you also work with him a lot on the ground/under saddle if you ride and just keep him pre-occupied. It may mean that you need to strengthen your relationship with him and try to find ways for him to realize that YOU are his herd now and hopefully he will settle for you. Good luck!

He may settle down. Moving can be stressful for horses. Try putting him in a turnout with other geldings and no mares, to let him settle and find his place in the herd. Mares can cause a stir among geldings sometimes, especially if there is unrest in the hierarchy. Recruit the help of a more experienced rider, trainer or instructor to help you gain control of him under saddle. If he intimidates you too much, then you should sell him before you get hurt. Just be honest with any potential buyers so someone else doesn't end up in your position.

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My arab was gelded late so he might have been too. (mine acted like a stallion) I also learned (I can't think of the vet terms now) that when a horse is gelded, part of his private part can be left accidentally which results in him continuing to act like a stallion. I forgot what the process is called..learned in animal science

This sounds like the outcome of a gelding who was gelded late in life. Do you know when he was gelded and how long have you owned him? Stallion-like behaviors after being gelded late can become habitual as previous owner/owners allowed him to disrespect them. Unfortunately, he sounds like a dangerous horse. Especially dangerous to you because you're 13. I recommend you work with a very experienced instructor, or if your parents can help you pay for it, send your horse to training. Sending your horse away doesn't sound like the best thing, but I can assure you that both of you will be much happier afterwards. I mean, what horse could be happy if he is constantly having to fight with his owner and act manically? I hope everything works out between you two! Thoroughbreds are a lot of work, but really amazing horses. It'll take a lot of patience to work this out with your horse.

Also, after seeing what you said about him being drugged, it is definitely a possibility. I purchased my Thoroughbred quite awhile ago and I came to find that she was drugged when I tried her out and purchased her. Always, always have blood work done on a horse you're buying because you never know what the owner might be hiding from you.

My horse was gelded late AND he has a restrained testicle. He shows all signs of being a stallion.

He even has his canine teeth, that supposedly only stallions have.

For now...when you go get him from his paddock or where ever, have a dab of vicks vap rub on two of your fingers. Take your lead SHANK and lace your 6 inch chain through your near halter d, twist once over the nose band, through the far d, attach to lower d. a quick tug, tug, on your lead rope and wipe the vicks (don't jab) into his nostrils once you get that far. verbal reward. do not feed this horse by hand. He can't help his behavior..he is either proud cut (lots of "junk" left in the trunk, when they geld to enhance performance cuz of xtra testosterone) or he is cryptorchid ( one testicle still fully functioning but "not descended" so not cut). You can learn to manage him, though it will be a task. Do not let him in with mares...it will make it worse. If you have separate paddocks, run a strand of electric , secure, over the top rail. Keep him with a rowdy friend and remove any mare. You should notice a dif. in 5 to 7 days. email me if you have q's. If he try's to rear, a sharp yank on your shank and as soon as he hits the ground, go forward. He is not ready for lots of whoa....

edit...electic and no mares, plus a rowdy field mate are your first steps.

Hi , sorry but he sounds like he has no manners or respect .get him out of his " herd " where he is boss .Get an experienced person to help u teach him some manners x.I have worked with stallions & a rig & they have lots of male hormones which can make them aggressive & bolshy .It still boils down to respect & manners If you get some pointers to deal with him he should be a bit nicer to you good luck x