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Solid state amp. More gain?

In a bit of a quandary here folks. Hoping some of the more tech-savvy guitarists here can help me out with this.

I just got a new Randall 1503 2x12 combo amp yesterday and have found that it does 90% of what I want out of it.

The only thing it lacks is just that extra little bit of gain to make my guitar scream. The catch: I really like the natural tone of the amp and don't want to bury it under a distortion pedal if I can help it.

I'm looking at a couple different ideas.

1) Getting a tube-based overdrive or clean boost to give my signal a little more oomph. I already know a Tubescreamer or something similar will be useless, as there are no tubes to overdrive.

2) Getting the hottest passive bridge pickup I can find.

3) Both.

I know roughly how Dimebag did it, it involved 2 different EQ boxes (1 in front, 1 in the loop). He used a very similar amp to what I have now for most of his career. But, I don't want to copy Dime's tone. I have too much respect for him to rip him off like that. And I want to sound like ME, not another copycat Dime-clone.

Any thoughts or suggestions that might get me in the neighborhood I want to be in? That would be at the corner of Holyshit Ave and Meltyourface St.

Update:

Would it achieve what I want to do by putting a clean boost and EQ in my effects loop and leave it on all the time? Something that won't cause my clean tone to become distorted.

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  • Adam D
    Lv 7
    7 years ago
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    Getting a tube screamer helps tube amps, sure, but they aren't strictly for tube amps. It's just a name and the main reason they were developed. However, they are just overdrives and are very good over drive pedals. They are similar to clean boosts, but will add in a little more gain to your signal, which you can take that gain out by leaving the gain knob at 0... essentially turning it into a clean boost pedal.

    What you want is to use your amps distortion and just tighten it up a little bit. You can achieve this with a clean boost or tube screamer and combining it with a quality EQ, like the MXR 10 band EQ.

    Source(s): Me (20+ years playing and being a tone whore).
  • This has been the biggest Biotch of all SS amp users forever, The distortion/gain/overdrive on the lead channel leaves much to be desired but the clean channel is screaming can be found in just about every review of every SS amp ever built, Simply because there's no valves to over saturate in a SS amp. which is what creates that overdriven sound in a tube amp. But you obviously already know this, So to answer your question, Sure there's plenty of options, and plenty of good peddles, So how much do you want to spend? The Boss GT 100 can be dialed in to do just about anything you want with a SS amp, it just aint cheap, Tube screamer peddles and such do the job, but are limited to doing only that one thing, and a good one still isn't cheap, I hopped on the Kustom bandwagon years ago before they were all made in China, today I use mostly my little Quad 100 DFX with a Roland GR 55 which is Bosses parent company, Quite a bit more expensive than the GT 100 but the GT has many of the same features for shaping your tone, Roland/boss uses there COSM system which is pretty impressive, as it can emulate a lot of different guitars and amps pretty convincingly, Although I cant seem to find a setting for the Kustom Doublecross with Doublecross coupe 4x12 Celestion cab, They must have left that on the corner of Yougottabefuckinkidding and Okthatsenoughoverdrivealready, but that's OK, if need be I can still get that sound from the real thing,

  • OU812
    Lv 7
    7 years ago

    I understand what you are saying about liking the tone of the amp, and if you're after one very specific tone then you could try a clean boost with your amps gain setting to get you there. Personally I need 2 or 3 different levels of gain. So what I do is find the sweet spot on the amp for gain. If it does high gain really well then I'll use a couple pedals to get the low and mid gain tones. If it does mid gain well then I'll use my pedals for low and high gain, etc. I don't try to make the amp's gain channel do what it does not do best if that makes any sense.

    I play Mesa amps and even though they are known for high gain, I tend to use them as my mid gain (crunch) setting. I then use a Fulltone OCD for my lower gain and a Wampler SLOstortion for my high gain.

    Those Randall SS amps are killer. The other guitarist in our band actually quit playing his Marshall JCM 800 and started playing an 80's Randall solid state amp. Sounds badass.

  • 7 years ago

    Hello there,

    I think the clean boost pedal is the best way to go. The TC Electronics Spark Booster pedal would be a good choice. Also the Seymour Duncan Pickup Booster pedal is pretty good.

    Later,

    Norm

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  • Harry
    Lv 7
    7 years ago

    Good to see these kinds of questions around here.

    Breaks the monotony, but understandable, levels of interests this website is so (has been over the years) been created for.

    We all need to be challenged once in a while to keep our own interest going as well. As some days I ask myself 'why' I even bother.

    But then again, it takes one from the list of regulars to bring it about.

    I am a user of T.C. Electronics (M 300 and others) products myself.

    Source(s): 48 years guitar and keyboard player (with a small home recording studio) piano and organ
  • Anonymous
    7 years ago

    you can get a tubescreamer it actually gives more bottom end to solid state amps and it sounds very warm and natural, tubescreamers arent only for tube amps.

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