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Do you still celebrate Chrismas knowing it's not really Jesus birthday ?
Do you still celebrate christmas knowing it's not really Jesus birthday and knowing it took place from a pagan holiday?
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- imacatholic2Lv 77 years agoFavorite Answer
Pagans have never celebrated the Birth of Christ except, of course, the Magi.
Setting the date of Jesus’ birth on December 25 lies in the determination of Jesus’ death at Passover.
Around 200 C.E., while Christians were still being persecuted by the Romans, Tertullian of Carthage calculated that the 14th of Nisan (the day of the crucifixion according to the Gospel of John in the Jewish lunar calendar) in the year Jesus died was equivalent to March 25 in the Roman (solar) calendar (Tertullian, Adversus Iudaeos 8).
This was later confirmed by St. Hippolytus of Rome and by St. Augustine in "De Trinitate" (iv, 5) which states, "Jesus died on the cross on March 25, the same day of the year as that on which He was conceived."
Whether right or wrong, Jesus was believed to have been conceived and crucified on the same day of the year, March 25. So the date of Jesus' birth became exactly nine months later on December 25.
By the way, March 25 is still celebrated as the Feast of the Annunciation, the commemoration of Jesus’ conception.
Whatever the real date of Jesus' birth really was, Christmas (the Mass of Christ) is (and always has been) the Eucharistic celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ, God the Son.
The angel said to them,
"Do not be afraid; for behold, I proclaim to you good news of great joy that will be for all the people. For today in the city of David a savior has been born for you who is Messiah and Lord. And this will be a sign for you: you will find an infant wrapped in swaddling clothes and lying in a manger."
And suddenly there was a multitude of the heavenly host with the angel, praising God and saying:
"Glory to God in the highest and on earth peace to those on whom his favor rests."
(Luke 2:10-14)
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Just because a Christian Holy Day lands near or on the same day of the year as a Pagan holiday does not mean that that Christian Holy Day is "based on Paganism" or is "worshiping Satan."
With the thousands of Pagan religions all over the world which have been practiced for thousands of years, there is probably at least one (if not more than one) Pagan holiday for everyday of the year.
Using that logic:
+ Christians could never celebrate anything on any day of the year.
+ Anyone celebrating a loved one's birthday on April 20 is celebrating Hitler's birthday because coincidentally, Hitler was born on the same day.
With love in Christ.
- 7 years ago
Can a Pagan Holiday Be Made Christian?
First, they do not believe that Jesus was born in either December or January. The Bible does not give a specific date. It simply states: “There were also in that same country shepherds living out of doors and keeping watches in the night over their flocks. And suddenly Jehovah’s angel stood by them, and . . . the angel said to them: ‘. . . There was born to you today a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.’”—Luke 2:8-11.
Facts point to Jesus’ birth at approximately the beginning of October when shepherds with their flocks would still spend the night in the fields. The countryside around Bethlehem experiences the coldest weather during the months of December and January. Hence, to keep them warm at night, flocks are herded into protective shelters.
A second reason: The only event Jesus specifically instructed his followers to commemorate was his death, not his birth, and this was to be done as a simple communion meal. (Luke 22:19, 20) Note, too, that the Gospels of Mark and John are silent about Jesus’ birth.
A third reason: There is no historical evidence that the early Christians celebrated the birth of the Christ. But they did memorialize his death. (1 Corinthians 11:23-26) It was not until more than 300 years after Jesus’ birth that Christendom officially began to observe Christmas on December 25. Interestingly, in the mid-17th century, an act of parliament banned Christmas celebrations in England. In the United States, the Massachusetts General Court did the same. Why? The book The Battle for Christmas, says: “There is no biblical or historical reason to place the birth of Jesus on December 25.” It adds that to the Puritans, “Christmas was nothing but a pagan festival covered with a Christian veneer.”
That brings us to a fourth reason: The unsavory origin of the celebration itself. The roots of Christmas can be traced back to pagan Rome with its mixture of festivals for honoring the agricultural god Saturn and the sun god Sol Invictus, or Mithra. Anthropologists Christian Rätsch and Claudia Müller-Ebeling, coauthors of the book Pagan Christmas, write: “Like many pre-Christian customs and beliefs, the old feast commemorating the yearly return of the sun was rededicated to the birth of Christ.”
In view of the foregoing, can you see why true Christians do not celebrate Christmas?
The only event Jesus specifically instructed his followers to commemorate was his death, not his birth
- ElsaLv 47 years ago
Yes, I do. No one really knows when Jesus was born, although most theologians believe he was born in either the spring or summer. To me, the pagans do not own December 25th. So I see no reason why pagans can celebrate their holiday and Christians celebrate the Birth of Jesus on the same day. The date is immaterial, it's what in the heart that counts.
- rukahk981Lv 67 years ago
Christmas to me is just a holiday about family, togetherness, unity, and peace. It's the one holiday where friends and family get together under one roof and just enjoy the cold winter evening (christmas eve) and day (christmas day) together and be happy. Warm fire, hot chocolate, and just chilling out.
Of course I know it's not Jesus' real birthday
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- PenguinosLv 47 years ago
I celebrate it as a Pagan. Near to the end of December i make a wreath of Holly, Yew and Ivy to symbolise enduring life throughout Winter and hang it on my door. How on Earth people think this symbolises the Birth of Jesus i don't know lol
Instead of burning a Yule log, i just eat a chocolate one. Not traditionalist but still true to Yule.
- ?Lv 77 years ago
Yes. I celebrate Christmas primarily as a winter solstice celebration. Similar to the pagan reasons behind their Yule celebrations. Unlike the pagans though it's not that I think there's anything special about it other than the fact that the winter solstice is a big deal. After that the nights get shorter and the days longer, and you're headed back towards spring and summer. I know it wasn't Jesus's birthday. I really doubt the Jesus character was even a real person. So I couldn't care less about that.
- Dennis SagtLv 77 years ago
That it's taken from a pagan holiday is debatable and irrelevant. That it's not His birthday is also irrelevant. I celebrate it.
- Anonymous7 years ago
jesus was born april 6th................he was born when the shepards were tending their flocks. They tend their flocks in the spring when the baby sheep and goats are being born to prevent preditors from eating the babies.
We Mormons celebrate the birth of our savior in april by having a conference whereby many apostles and the prophet speaks to the world on TV...BYU
we know that dec 25th is a pagna holiday, but in so telling the world it would only cause contention in the world. So we celebrate it for the childrens sake on dec 25th..................but we know in our hearts that april 6th is the proper day of the lords birth.
we also know that jesus died in april..........................and I would assume that he will return in april...what year we know not.
he seems to favior the spring in all his life's events....
- 7 years ago
Yes. Just as I celebrate Easter, even though Jesus didn't die on that day, and it came from a pagan holiday (the Easter bunny came from the goddess of fertility).
However, when I have my own kids, I don't want to tell them about the Easter bunny or Santa Claus.
- GregLv 77 years ago
If you mean... do I attend holiday parties.... the answer is yes.
Atheists don't really care. The Christians co-opted another pagan festival..... so call it what you wish. Hanukkah, Festivus, Christmas, Solstice, Kwanzaa... makes no difference to me.