The book of Revelation, according to The New World Translation of The Jehovah Witness?

The watchtower are brain washed. First , they are made to feel special in having the only true doctrine. They are shown mainly how wrong the churches are, especially the catholic church. Truly, the doctrine of the churches are wrong. So, it is an easy matter to indoctrinate these people who want to be special. They receive a lot of points for every lie that they digest. The first scripture presented to them is in Rev.ch.3, that Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God. They are show the crooked path and they love a lie. They dont have to go to hell, they are the chosen ones and they attend the kingdom hall. Christmas is spent critisizing all the churches who are celebrating a false day cutting down trees and decorating them. I was in a cult many years ago and it is impossibel to know that they are wrong if you do not have a background. There is a lot more. I can show any of them in their own translatiion that Jesus is God. They agree and just go on ..!

Revelation is very clear starting with vs 1:1

Who gave the Revelation to Jesus?

Who is 1:4 " from Him who is and who was and who is to come,"? it can't be Jesus, because vs 5 starts by says: "5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness"

John even makes matters clearer by saying: vs 6:"He has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His [Jesus'] God and Father--"

John didn't believe that Jesus was part of a mysterious God.

Jesus didn't teach he was God because the glorified Jesus tells us about his God in Rev 3.

So if Jesus is God Almighty, then is his God, the more than Almighty?

To get Revelation to say Jesus is God, one must ignore context.

Chapter 5 Jesus is given honor because he died. When and how can God die?

1 Timothy 1:17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God,

Chapter 4 Jehovah is honored because He is God.

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There are a lot more scriptures than that, which clearly show that Jesus and God are not the same. Jesus prayed to God. Why would he pray to himself?

Jesus told a man not to call him by the worshipful title "Good" and said: "Only one is good, God."

Jesus said: "The Father is greater than I am." When Jesus went back to heaven, he "sat at God's right hand" so was distinct from him and had an inferior position, there too.

By the way, some scholars praise the NWT as the very best. One is religious scholar Jason Beduhn.

These are the words as written in the 1611 King James Version.

Verse 7 is the prophecy of the resurrection from John 5:28-29, Luke 21:27, and John 14:2-4. These verses are all speaking about the death and resurrection which happened in the year 33 AD, which was the 1st season of the 7th day of the 5th Seal that began 1,680 years prior with birth of Abram.

7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Verse 8 is the true story of Genesis 2:4-7, John 1:2-5, 9-14, in verse 8 it is being declared that it is the Christ who is Lord God, as Lord God the beginning was the 3rd Seal, when he made all that was made. The Lord God remade all that his Father had created in Seals 1 and 2, because Satan "destroyed" it all. The Christ became our protector, after he had remade our place of habitation, including our flesh bodies. YES, we are spirits only living as the humans the Christ our Lord remade for us the spirits created by his Father to live in. Matt 22:44 tells that the LORD is God the Father and that the Lord is the Christ our God the Son of God.

8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Verse 9 is the verse that Jesus spoke of in Luke 11:24-26, John 3:4-6, John 20:17-19, John 5:21 and John 6:63 as Jesus raised those that the living said where dead, he raised John the Baptist, Mark 12:27

John the Baptist was behead, in the 30 AD and flesh body of John the Baptist was still dead at the time Jesus was "Glorified" John 20:17 and all those who where killed in the day of rest of the 5th seal, along with all those that where killed in the 3rd and 4th seals where all sent to paradise where they waited for the Christ to open the gate to paradise and they all seen the Christ, Lord God coming in a cloud of great Glory and the Christ let them all in and John the Baptist was single out of this great crowd because his work on earth was still not finished.

9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Verse 10 is saying that the day Jesus was Glorified the spirit of John the Baptist had not yet been "Born Again" as was his spirit "Born Again" when he walked the earth as Isaiah, Elijah or Moses. Verse 10 is saying that the spirit of John the Baptist heard the voice of the Christ, Lord God, as it says he would in John 5:28-29 and John 10:1-10.

10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

Verse 11 is saying that the Christ, was the first and only Son of God the Father to ever have his flesh body be Born, begotten by a female to enter into this world. Lord God, our Lord, became as one of those flesh bodies he himself had made.

11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;

Rev 1:7-12 (KJV)

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you will find those same verses in Isaiah 41:4 44:6. 48:12 , and this is after god had told Isaiah in 45:5

I am the Lord , there is no other. there is no God besides me." and we all know that Jesus is no liar, he is "The way, the truth and the life ."

Greetings,

Trinitarians claim that Jesus is the Alpha and Omega. But to do this they must ignore the context and explicit statements of the Bible.

"Alpha and Omega" is used as a title three times in Revelation (1:8; 21:6; 22:13). Rev.1:11 of the KJV is a spurious addition.

Following are a few of the many contextual reasons for why this title cannot be referring to Jesus.

First, in the context of 1:8 Jesus is explicitly excluded grammatically from being the "Alpha and Omega." In verses 4,5 we have greetings from three entities: "The One Who Is, Was, and Is Coming" AND "The Seven Spirits" AND "Jesus Christ." The individual given the title "The One Who Is and Was and Is Coming" is clearly identified as the "Alpha and Omega," the "Almighty," and "Lord God." Incontestably, the Alpha and Omega is grammatically differentiated from both Jesus Christ and from the "seven spirits." Therefore, it is impossible for Jesus to be the one addressed in 1:8 as the "Alpha and Omega."

Second, Revelation specifically identifies the "One Seated on the Throne" as the "Alpha and Omega" (21:5,6), yet in chapters four and five Jesus is shown to be ontologically separated from the One "on the throne." Because first he is shown receiving a scroll from the enthroned Alpha and Omega and second it is clear that grammatically he is consistently differentiated from the One on the throne: 1:4; 4:2,8; 5:1,5-7,13; 6:16; 7:10. And Rev.5:12 presents Jesus as separate and inferior to the Alpha and Omega since he has to "receive power and wisdom" from “the one on the throne.”

Therefore, grammatically and contextually, the first two evidences clearly separate Jesus from The Alpha and Omega proving that it is impossible for them to be the same. There are seven more clues but here are only three more:

Third, the "Alpha and Omega" is explicitly classed as "Almighty," yet in all nine occurrences of the word Almighty Jesus is contextually–ontologically and grammatically–excluded from being The Almighty! (1:8; 4:8; 11:17; 15:3; 16:7,14; 19:6,15; 21:22).

Fourth, closely related to number three, the Alpha and Omega is identified as being Jesus’ God in 1:6. In 1:1 and 2:26,27 Jesus receives knowledge and power from his God.

Therefore, it is impossible for Jesus to be the Almighty Alpha and Omega since Jesus himself expresses his inferiority to the Alpha and Omega by declaring six times that he has a God (Rev.1:6; 3:2,12 NIV, ASV, RSV, NWT).

Let us examine the final and most contested occurrence of the title Alpha and Omega: Re 22:12-13.

Most Trinitarians interpret this occurrence as being Christ identifying himself as the Alpha and Omega. But this is an incorrect interpretation.

Trinitarians claim that Jesus identifying himself as speaking in 22:16 is seen as a continuation of the Alpha and Omega speaking from verse 13.

However, this conclusion is based on presupposition and not on evidence. When Jesus identifies himself in verse 16 it does not mean that the words prior to this are also his words. Rather, the context shows that when someone says "I so-and-so..." they are introducing themselves as a new speaker. For example, in Revelation there are two other occurrences of the first person singular "I" followed by a personal identification: Rev.1:9 and 22:8. In both cases this grammatical marker introduces a NEW speaker, NEVER the same speaker continuing!

In 1:8 "the Alpha and the Omega" is speaking, yet in the next verse, using the same syntax as in 22:16, John says “I John ...”. Obviously, it would be ridiculous to claim that this means John is "the Alpha and the Omega" of the previous verse! If we were to accept the logic of Trinitarians, we would have to conclude that John was the Almighty Alpha and Omega, since 1:9 would be a continuation of 1:8!

The same thing occurs at Rev 22:7. Would anyone insist that John was Almighty God because of John's use of the same syntax as Jesus in 22:16.

Obviously, the grammatical evidence proves that both Jesus and John were introducing themselves as new speakers.

Though I've only presented a quarter of the evidence, it is still overwhelming evidence that Jesus is specifically excluded from receiving the title Alpha Omega anywhere in Revelation and that the title refers exclusively to Jehovah, the only Almighty God (Ps.83:18; Jn.17:3).

True Christians accept Christ's own words when he says "The Father is greater than I" (Jn.14:28).

Jesus plainly said that he did not know what Almighty God knew on earth or in heaven (Mk.13:32; Mat 20:23).

EVERY explicit statement in Scripture shows that Jesus was less than Almighty God at every point of his existence. At the highest position he will ever attain, Jesus still has a God over him and is "subject" to *GOD* the same way we are "subject" to him (1Cor.15:27,28).

Yours,

BAR-ANERGES

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That's nice - but what is your question ???

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