Will the JW's, who continue to troll R/S please give account for the false watchtower predictions?

Why should we? Does it seem to you like we care? Has any witness ever denied that there were dates that were looked forward to in the early part of the last century? It's been about 85 years and yet it still comes up. My advice to you - don't become one of Jehovah's witnesses, since those are the only people it should really matter to.

Now, as to your definition of a cult: "any group that adds or takes away from, scripture"

So, by definition that would be all religions, right? Show me one bible that has not removed the tetragrammaton nearly 7000 times. That's God's name, removed from HIS word. Are you OK with that? Should humans make the decision, do they have the authority to remove God's name from places that he wanted it?

By all means, do the research. It's there, nearly 7000 times but EVERY Bible removed it.

Sure. You use a site devoted to lies and spewing hatred. Taking little slivers of truth and turning it into a boulder of lies.

Yes, you got some quotes there that seem to be very bad. Yet considering the times of the very early 1900s, those people were panicked. Prior to 1914, most of earth was a city park compared to today.

I notice you just "imply" something must be wrong with 1975. Since I was there through the entire years before and after, this is one I have personal knowledge about. Unlike 1920s.

See, 1975 was only the end of man being on earth for 6,000 years according to Bible chronology. That was all. We understand the 7th Creative Day is the only one that did not end. We are still in it. Now according to the best information we have now, each one is 7,000 years long.

Since the Bible states it will end at the end of Christ's thousand year reign over God's Kingdom, that does not give much time left before Armageddon begins. Now it will never come on human time wishes. It will be at Jehovah God's perfect time for it. You are under some dumb idea we go around making predictions to scare others for some vague reasons. How ridiculous!

Some of us during that time DID jump ahead to assume entirely wrong things without merit. They were only serving for a date. Not for life, dedicated to Jehovah's service. Instead, some did not see Armageddon come soon enough for them. So they picked up their toys and left the organization.

According to history, this has happened before. Sort of a weeding out of the organization of Jehovah since Israel, when some proved unfaithful then as well. This leaves those truly serving Jehovah for life, not any date..

But as far as dates go, we are not in the prediction business. We just see when the Bible tells that some time period ends after a certain number of years which began on a fixed year or historical event.

You are all out of sorts that you do not see Jesus himself sailing out of heaven on some cloud in white robes. Except Jesus never said he would do so. Who saw him depart for heaven? Was it all of Jerusalem? No. It was only a few faithful followers. You do not think things through either.

Jesus returned to heaven as a spirit creature. His time of being a human was limited to just one brief time period, for a definite important purpose. The Kingdom and throne are always wherever the King is. This is true for human kings as well. So why should it be such a shock his Kingdom stays in heaven? Jesus can certainly rule properly from heaven with no difficulties.

The main thing is getting rid of Satan's organization and wicked people. Once that is done, that solves most problems Earth has. Jehovah designed planet wide systems to be self repairing. What has messed things up really has been wicked people deliberately trying to ruin the entire planet so it could not keep up.

With all of them dead, planet systems can return things to excellent working order. All humans will be taught by the heavenly Kingdom how to become perfect. Right now, we humans do not know how. We do have ideas from the Bible of how we will behave then. So today, we prepare ourselves to live then by making changes to our lives compatible with how we will become later. This makes for a better life then and less shock later. All in all, a greater, finer way of life than those this wicked world desires. Plus, it has nothing to do with any dates.

Answerer #1 exaggerates.

He is trying to purport a list of so many occasions, when there are really but 3, maybe 4 occasions.

And yes, JWs have thought the 'new system' they preach about would start in certain eras.

They were wrong.

Do you agree that Jesus said, "Be on the watch?"

He said it 4 times in Matthew 24 alone.

You gotta admit JWs are on the watch.

You want to hang them for being wrong?

Go ahead, but who else is on the watch?

It's funny when a member of one cult calls out other cultists for being in a cult.

All religions are equally ridiculous, including yours, fool.

The only reason that they troll R and S, its because they were exposed for what they are angel worshippers, in the likes of the Archangel Michael being One and the Same with Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

The only reason they troll here, its due to the exposure, and the hidden non-Christian doctrines they were keeping from main stream Christians here.

As soon as the exposure came about, they have started attacking mainstream Christians, so they could shift the focus off the cultic beliefs.

Usually their presence here is low key, but the revelation by one of the their followers as to the true nature of the heresies, has exposed the dangerous nature of these "doctrines of demons" as the Bible puts it, who I doubt very much has a clue as to the Aryan origins of this identifiable wrong belief of this false religion.

It can be understood, that if the Holy Spirit is denied, and Jesus Deity is denied, it is no wonder that there is no hearing or operation of the Holy Spirit, and thereby the deeper the wool over the sheep eyes, covering truth, by the false prophets that write the NWT and teach the false doctrines of JWs.

An Holy Spirit Awakening is truly needed here, only Jesus and the Holy Spirit can give this truth but they are denied so explains the reason.

Wow are you rude for someone who says he is Catholic! Somebody needs to read up on the way Jesus dealt with people and follow that mild example! And the Catholic church has been wrong way more times, than we have! Take the persecution of Galileo for his correct science! You may say that the Catholic church can err as long as it isn't through the official channel of the pope, well then JWs can err too! Because we are not claiming it is prophetic and admitting we are subject to error! By the way, Catholic leaders have said the end would come when it didn't too

dear witnesses answering these questions.

Stop copying and pasting from watchtower. Use your own words. Not ones written for you!

that is all!

I would much rather acknowledge when I was wrong and fix the way I think as to hang onto lies like the trinity, hellfire and immortality of the soul and just remain an idiot my entire life.

The Witnesses have saved me from apostate websites.

Only the Bible predicts.

Well, I would firstly have to take issue with your name-calling. Jehovah's Witnesses are not a cult, although I do understand your sincere belief to the contrary. Still, it is a bit rude to call people names.

Certainly to prophesy can mean to reveal future events but prophesying is by no means limited to such a narrow understanding. Scripturally speaking, prophecy is an inspired message; a revelation of the divine will and purpose of something to come, a moral teaching or an expression of a divine command or judgment. To illustrate, the account at Luke 22:63, 64 shows that Jesus' face was covered over so that he could not see. He was then struck and spit upon and the religious leaders commanded him to "Prophesy! Who is it that struck you?" Clearly, these ones were not asking Jesus to reveal future events; they were demanding that he, as the son of God, use divine revelation to identify who struck him even though his face was covered over. From this we can see that to prophesy does not necessarily mean to reveal future events.

As for the definition of a false prophet, many focus on Deuteronomy 18:20-22 which reads: "But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death." You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?" If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously." (NIV)

Now if this were the sole criterion by which to measure the trueness of a prophet, Nathan the prophet would have been put to death because according to the account at 1 Chronicles 17: 1-4, 15, Nathan plainly stated to King David something that God had NOT commanded him to say – something that did NOT come to pass. Indeed, Nathan was wrong. Did God put him to death? No, God directed Nathan to return to David and correct matters.

Well then, can the sayings of a false prophet come true? Some, like one commenter here, seem to think they cannot. What does the Bible say about that? Well, this brings us to the real focus of false prophesy in the eyes of God. Notice Deuteronomy 13:1-5: "If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, AND IF THE SIGN OR WONDER OF WHICH HE HAS SPOKEN TAKES PLACE, and he says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them," you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. It is the Lord your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way the Lord your God commanded you to follow." (NIV)

Did you notice? The sign given by a false prophet could come true. But notice also the focus of God: the false prophet is using the sign to tell others : "let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them." Yes, the false prophet is trying to lure away God's people to worship false gods. The fact that the sign came true was incidental when it comes to the definition of false prophet but quite telling for purposes of your question. For indeed, a prophecy coming true did not mark the prophet as true at all. Conversely, a prophecy failing to come true does not mark a prophet as false - just as it did not in the case of Nathan. Which brings us to . . .

Are Jehovah's Witnesses false prophets? Some seem to believe so. Why? Well, some often mention so-called erroneous sayings concerning the end. Interestingly, the first century apostles were keenly interested in this as well. They asked Jesus point blank when these things would occur and he provided them with a sign. Jehovah's Witnesses also keenly watch for the outworking of this sign. Admittedly they have made errors. It should be noted, however, that some so-called predictions of the end (such as the strong assertion about the one Jehovah's Witnesses supposedly made in 1975) were, in fact, never made. Still, this canard continues.

In truth, those who long for the deliverance Jesus promised are keenly interested in when these things will happen. This can lead to wrong expectations. But wrong expectations are not synonymous with false prophecies. So at the setting of the sun, there is nothing in the way of "so-called false predictions" for which Witnesses need to give an account.

Hannah J Paul