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Why do most religious arguments try to make evolution seem impossible? It seems like they never consider us to literally be the 1/x? chance?

I see a lot of people saying things like "how did Earth end up at the exaaaact distance needed to support life?" or "how did all these molecules come together at the exact same time to create life?" Some go on to say that people are intelligent design, but lets face it, people aren't intelligently designed, it's just the only point of view and lifestyle we can comprehend. If anything, people have to force the world to adapt to them through the making of cities, irrigation canals, domestic breeding, scientific understanding such as artificial production of food, tools, and other materials...

It just seems like that religious people (most that I heard of anyway NOT ALL) deny the possibility of human potential and also the rest of the universe when they say that people are god's number one creation that he loves almost unconditionally.

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  • Arnie
    Lv 7
    6 years ago

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    How can the universe create itself out of nothingness? Doesn't it make sense to assume the existence of a Creation. This statement is tricky because it sneaks in the false assumption that GOD came from somewhere and then asks where that might be. The answer is that the question does not even make sense. It is like asking, “What does blue smell like?” Blue is not in the category of things that have a smell, so the question itself is flawed. In the same way, GOD is not in the category of things that are created or caused. GOD is uncaused and uncreated—He simply exists.

    We know that from nothing, nothing comes. So, if there were ever a time when there was absolutely nothing in existence, then nothing would have ever come into existence. But things do exist. Therefore, since there could never have been absolutely nothing, something had to have always been in existence. That ever-existing being is what we call GOD ,GOD is the un-caused Being that caused everything else to come into existence. God is the uncreated Creator who created the universe and everything in it.

    The universe requires a cause because it had a beginning, GOD unlike the universe, had no beginning, so he doesn’t need a cause. Einstein’s theory of general relativity, which has much experimental support, shows that time is linked to matter and space. So time itself would have begun along with matter and space. Since GOD is the creator of the whole universe, he is the creator of time. Therefore He is not limited by the Reality, Time dimension He created..

    You can't see the wind, but you know it is there because you can see what the wind is doing. You can know that the wind is there because you can feel it.GOD is like the wind, you can't see him.

    The mystery's of faith an GOD are beyond our ability to understand.

  • Anonymous
    6 years ago

    Yes, it's true that the planet has conditions suitable for life. This is not because the planet was made for us, but rather because life could only start on a planet that could support it. We chose the planet, the planet wasn't chosen for us.

    The beginning of all life isn't a part of evolutionary theory. Even still, saying that "all these molecules had to come together at the exact same time" is a gross oversimplification. Perhaps there is a specific condition from which life can be created? Science doesn't know the answer to this yet, but the answer will not be based on improbable odds.

    We have tailbones. That should be the only argument one should need.

  • 6 years ago

    When people think of Life being created, they think of a solution of some Miracle substance, that makes LIFE suddenly appear. IT is not that at all, Life is an ENERGY, which cannot be made, but it CAN be put into something that will accept it.

    A two strand rubber coated wire, with the two ends bared, can be touched by humans and nothing happens. Plug that same wire into an electrical outlet, and that wire suddenly becomes dangerous to touch the bare wires. Unplug the outlet and the wire is once more, just a wire.

    The electricity is PUT into the wire, it is NOT made when the wire is made. And once the need for the electricity is removed, it no longer is within the wire.

    Life, is PUT into a body, much the same as electricity, and will remain until the body can no longer sustain it. And Life then leaves. It is NOT made by the body, nor the solution Science comes up with, it is PUT into the body OR solution, when the requirements for it are met. Once that requirement is no longer there, the Life leaves.

    Point is, that Life is NOT made in laboratories, so WHERE then does it come from?

    Intelligence is NOT made in laboratories, so WHERE then does intelligence come from? Can a human actually MAKE intelligence? If it were possible, we could make a lot and feed our Government officials with it.

    So you tell me, just how something RANDOM, can do all this, so easily.

    And the odds of doing even half of what has been done, would be greater then the odds of winning all the lottos in the world at the same time.

    Why is it that people cannot see just HOW huge the odds are, of any of these things happening, randomly? And WHY, just the Ape, to be chosen randomly, instead of at least another thousand creatures out of the billions available? Why? Why is there NO evidence of an Alligator man? Or Giraffe man?

    Or even a tiny mouse man?

    As for out Tail Bone, our skeleton makeup was chosen to be like that of the Ape BECAUSE of what the ape body had to offer. God did NOT choose the body of a snake, or duck, or an Eagle, to be that of Man, because THEY simply did not fit the bill. Man needed hands. And legs to walk on. And a brain skull that would allow a huge brain. So God made Duck Man. Ooops, didn't work. Okay, Platypus Man. Nope, that didn't work either. ONLY the Ape had what was needed. Legs, and arms, and HANDS.

    But LOOK at ape, and his skull is not the same, nor is his brain size, and he cannot walk upright easily. God chose the Ape, but made changes to the body, so that Man could be the Human God wanted.

    When you can show me fossils of duck man, alligator man, snake man, giraffe man, elephant man, and so on, maybe MAYBE I will consider evoltution. But God did not make these, He did not need to make them, and so, only the Ape would be what was needed. NOT evolution FROM the Ape, but a copy of Ape for man to be MAN, in his own right.

    You ever wonder what the odds of Earth being the ONLY planet in all of space, that has Life on it? Even Earth in our own Solar System, the odds are infinite. ONE planet, out of billions, just within our milky way.

    But there just MIGHT by life on other planets, life such as ours. And, creatures that resemble us. NOW then, WHAT are the odds of THAT happening, randomly? Not a chance. Life on other planets would mean but ONE thing, that there had to be something or someone, tied to all Life on all planets. And not randomly done.

    Think what you will, you will anyway. Just think about the odds, for something different to think about. Even the lesser odds of Earth becoming what it was, because of the line up of stars, planets, Milky Way, Solar System, Sun, and orbit around Sun, the odds are still, way out there. All, at the toss of a dice.

  • 6 years ago

    It's not circular reasoning when there is an objective result to look for.

    I think you would see what I'm talking about when I mention that IN the Bible, Jesus gave us what you might call a "litmus" test to prove whether or not His words were from God or not.

    It's not circular reasoning, because if Jesus never existed, then nothing will happen, or if Jesus was a liar, then nothing will happen, or if Jesus was a lunatic, then nothing will happen, or if the Bible is nothing more than the writings of some crazy bronze-aged, goat-herding cave men as the atheist mockers keep insisting, then nothing at all will happen.

    The results is objective, even though the challenge is presented in the Bible.

    The problem is that atheists don't WANT God to be real. They've made up their minds. Their minds are set in concrete, and their theme song is "Don't confuse me with Truth; my mind's already made up!"

    In his famous book “Mere Christianity”, C. S. Lewis makes the following observation: “I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: ‘I'm ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don't accept His claim to be God.’ That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic--on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg--or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great moral teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to."

    Furthermore, if they honestly, truly believed that God doesn't exist, then why are they attacking and mocking God so much? It looks and sounds a lot like "tilting at windmills" (Ref: Don Quixote), or trying to fight clouds with a butter knife. Or, based on the words of Shakespeare, "Me thinks they protest too much!"

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  • Anonymous
    6 years ago

    Evolution violates very serious laws within our system.

    We're seriously designed. I took nothing but sciences,

    with some artsy stuff thrown in, then specialized in...

    sciences. Other than the evoltion quasi stuff, it was good! Still study years later. Wasn't Christian then, btw.

    Things don't accidentally come together, form a good result. Not even now. The rest excellent stuff, scientifically based why evolution contradicts good science.

    My reasons differ. I see intense design...yes, attacked, but still...design. I think the insect world is way advanced to us (check out..mindsucker). I think

    Yehoshua created, all done first in the uber vast mind of God. And purpose..ppl assume. I usually won't re bible.

    I'm pretty sure we pre existed, not here, not

    reincarnation. So I wonder if Adam & Eve weren't selected so Jesus could come, save us.

    There are scriptures to show, & haven't found opposing.. so far. My current science interest is epigenetics... it's exploding, very exciting. So, I interpolate from here back.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    6 years ago

    Who convinced them that their God was not clever enough to use the big bang, evolution and science as his tools?!

    Science explains the big bang was not from nothing but from a singularity that was all the matter and energy in the universe compressed into a single point that then expanded rapidly!

    So it was always here!

    But why are Christians always claiming the big bang came from nothing? Are they that ignorant? Did they sleep through school or is it that they know the truth but think they can twist it because everyone is gullible?!

    Claiming something cannot come from nothing argues not against the big bang but against creationists claims!

    Recent research suggests the universe has contracted into a singularity and then expanded a number of times!

  • ?
    Lv 6
    6 years ago

    Humans not intelligently designed? Do you know how complex a cell, dna, muscle, brain. Whats causing the heart to pump and the lungs to breathe or the fact that there are billions on the planet and not anyone is the same yet all houseflies look the same. There is so much evidence its everywhere.

    How about miracles, healings, answered prayers, ability to run marathons

    Churches, Bible, Jesus, Holy land, there is so much evidence of God and intelligent design

  • 6 years ago

    Why do you believe evolution should be taken out of its own realm of theory and utilized as some sort of support for the assumption of materialism? I have no problem with evolution as a scientific theory; in its purest form it speaks about the nature of change, and the idea that certain attributes through time are passed along. In its muddled form, evolution is a moral relativistic argument speaking about the idea that no creator exists of natural law, and that all things are continually changing, so there exists little absolutism in our world. I think we have materialistic scientists to blame for the great misunderstanding existing between the divide of evolution and religion.

  • 6 years ago

    The vast majority of religious people accept Evolution. And God.

    A great many of us thing God has a role in Evolution. Not that we are the only "people" that God ever made! But, we have evolved very nicely, so far, so, I'm happy how He has made it all work out.

  • 6 years ago

    Can order come from nowhere? Can anything really be created without intelligent design? A dress, a baby, a car, a world, an amoeba? I think your premise is really, really far-fetched. Intelligence is necessary to create order. This I really believe, no bashing.

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