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Evidence (Christians)?
Ok this isn't what you think...I'm not just trolling here. I believe that everyone should challenge even their most deep-set beliefs every once in a while. It is healthy, in my opinion, and keeps one continually searching for the truth.
In that vein, and being one who likes religion, I am asking Christians where you read how the Bible was put together, information about the Dead Sea scrolls, information about historians during the time of Jesus who wrote about him (outside of the Gospels); anything that helps you believe the Bible is true.
I'd appreciate no comments about me "questioning my faith". That is not what I'm doing.
Thanks in advance!
4 Answers
- ?Lv 76 years ago
The only way primitive religion exists today is through the child abuse of forcing it into very, very young children but thanks to better education and growing intellects so many teens are able to discover the truth, throw off the indoctrination and step into the real world!
So atheism is not a conscious decision or a belief but a realisation!
The first person to produce a single tiny little piece of verifiable evidence for any god will become world famous and mega rich!
Academia states that in the absence of any sort of evidence of the existence of something it must be deemed not to exist until verifiable evidence is found - thus god is held not to exist pending some sort of verifiable evidence.
The bible is what is called "Faction” A fictional story set in a factual time and place. Thus the time, place and real historical characters are all correct but the fictional characters and stories are not!
There is not one single mention of Jesus in the entire Roman record - that is right - not one! At the same time as he was supposed to have been around there were a number of Jews claiming to be the messiah - all of whom are well recorded!
There is not a single contemporary record from any source and even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!
He was supposed to have been a huge problem to the Romans and produced wonderful miracles but still not one contemporary record?
Even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!
Pilate is recorded in the Roman record as a somewhat lack luster man but no mention of a Jesus, a trial or crucifixion that would surely have been used to make him look brighter!
At best he was an amalgam of those others but almost certainly never existed!
Not one word of it is contemporary with the period and was not written until several hundred years after the period the story is set in!! How did the apostles write their books more than a hundred years after they would have been dead?
Christianity is an invention of the Italians and that is why it came from the Holy ROMAN Catholic church!
Please realize that those claims for the Old historians are worthless since they were not even born until long after everyone in the stories would have been so long dead!
Josephus AD 37 – AD 100
Tacitus AD 56 – AD 120
Suetonius - 69 – 130 AD
Pliny the Younger, 61 AD – 112 AD
Justin Martyr (Saint Justin) AD103–165 AD
Lucian - AD 120 -180 AD but he was hostile to Christianity and openly mocked it.
Pamphilius AD 240-309 AD
Eusebius AD 263 – 339 AD
Photius AD 877 – 886 AD
Thallus - But there are no actual record of him except a fragment of writing which mentions the sack of Troy [109 BC] Showing that he was clearly not alive in biblical times.
Some even try to use Seneca. 4 BCE – 65 CE but as a Stoic Philosopher he opposed religion yet made not a single mention of a Jesus or Christianity!
Even funnier is trying to claim Celsus AD ? – 177 AD Who said that Jesus was a Jew who’se mother was a poor Jewish girl whose husband, who was a carpenter, drove her away because of her adultery with a Roman soldier named Panthera. She gave birth to an illegitimate child named Jesus. In Egypt, Jesus became learned in sorcery and upon his return presented himself as a god.
- hollymichalLv 66 years ago
There is not enough room here to cover everything, but here are some thoughts to consider:
Throughout the Bible, the unhesitating candor of its writers is strong proof of its reliability.
Moses, for example, straightforwardly tells of his own sin and God’s judgment that he and his brother, Aaron, should not enter the Promised Land. (Num. 20:7-13; Deut. 3:23-27)
The sins of David on two occasions as well as the apostasy of his son Solomon are openly exposed. (2 Sam., chaps. 11, 12, 24; 1 Ki. 11:1-13)
Jonah writes about his own disobedience and its result.
The entire nation of Israel was condemned by nearly all the writers of the Hebrew Scriptures, all of whom were Jews, for its disobedience to God, in the very record the Jews cherished and accepted as the pronouncements of God and the true history of their nation.
The Christian writers were no less candid. All four of the Gospel writers revealed Peter’s denial of Christ. And Paul called attention to Peter’s serious error on a matter of faith in making a separation between Jews and Gentiles in the Christian congregation at Antioch. It builds confidence in the Bible as truth when we realize that its writers spared no one, not even themselves, in the interests of making a faithful record.—Matt. 26:69-75; Mark 14:66-72; Luke 22:54-62; John 18:15-27; Gal. 2:11-14; John 17:17.
The Bible was written over a period of more than 1,600 years by about 40 writers, with no disharmony.
It has been widely distributed in tremendous numbers despite the fiercest opposition and the most energetic efforts to destroy it.
These facts help to prove that it is what it claims to be, the Word of the almighty God, and that it is indeed “beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness.”—2 Tim. 3:16.
- Anonymous6 years ago
You can know the Bible perfectly and have no Faith. You can not know the Bible and have Faith, as the Bible itself reports of the Phillipian Jailer. I don't think even Luther could keep from mocking your assumption.
- namelessLv 76 years ago
I believe that everyone should challenge even their most deep-set beliefs
~~~ No one does that!
The stronger the belief infection, the less available it is to critical examination!