Why do white and black women think getting fat makes them 'real' women?

White women in past years refused to talk about their weight and age and so never defended their weight, however we do know that menopause and medications and operations put weight on a person and that's a proven fact. For women it's also harder for them to lose weight than it is for men and that's a proven fact as well.

Your statement about dress sizes is hilarious. While Marilyn's dress size was or could have been a 12 (lots of young women wear that size) know that the "better" clothes might be a size 12 while what you buy off the rack in JCP or Sears might be a 14 in America. Sizes of course are different in Canada and by the overseas makers, they're larger. If you're still buying a size 6 or 8 then you're either buying in the children's department because you're bolemic or that store had relabeled their clothes to make a woman feel good, but the average size of a woman is and has always been a size 14 Miss. I know because I've been sewing for 50 years. A person who fits in a size 14 Miss (not 14 Woman's or 14 Plus) weighs around 150 lbs. When you say clothes companies just increased the dress size to make fat women feel better about their obesity you're wrong on that, it goes the other way, instead of increasing the dress size manufacturers are lowering the number to make women feel good.

What you've totally missed is that history will show that Europeans and Indians for sure a woman's extra weight was pride because it showed her husband was wealthy, and therefore a man wanted his woman heavy. There was an influx of Europeans into the USA in the late 1800's. In addition, DNA plays a big part of how you will look.

Today it's not only women it's men too who sit behind a computer all day and don't get exercise. Exercise is part of keeping the weight down as is the decrease of sugar. Sugar sells so it's in most foods we eat.

As far as black women are concerned they're wearing a fat booty on purpose, which makes them look large, and their men love that. As Megan Taylor's song goes, men love something at night to hold onto.

Medically:

Males need to have a body-fat between 5-15% to be healthy.

Females need to have a body-fat between 15-30% to be healthy.

You see how real-women have between 1, and 25% more body-fat than men.

About weight, too many people are Obese, but it's 1 in 3, and most of those aren't mobile, so you won't see many in the street/around you.

Most people, regular people call Obese are actually overweight, and about 40% are well within the average-range, they're just not gym-bodies.

So it's not them, it's you.

If your educating a child who's having a problem with seemingly simple math problem do you berate them and call them stupid until they get it right? Of course not! You offer them step-by-step advice on how they can solve the problem. Once you have shone them how it's done you ask the child to figure out the next problem, then when they get it right you offer encouraging words.

Fat-shaming is not going to win anyone over. Nobody is going to listen to your rant about their weight and think, "This guy makes sense." Instead they're going to be defensive and you may even set them back. So have a heart, man. If you want to help others then put yourself in their shoes.

Truth is not always supposed to make you feel comfortable and complacent.

I like the fact that the asker is challenging some mainstream ideas and attempting to use some logic too. Most people either challenge nothing , are afraid to be socially incorrect, or follow the cliché 2 sided popular topics.

My very humble opinion, since I observe the causative forces of what shapes societies, is that the media is a very oppressive social engineering machine that robs people of their self esteem, dignity, and happiness. Especially if they appear slightly different than whatever stereotype any particular trend is pushing.

1st and foremost people are trained to be consumers in the west- Trained to look outward for coolness, happiness, and anything else that fits a perceived missing piece to the puzzle that makes us, us. So we are the products. This is a central tenet of marketing: Do not make products to suit the consumers; make the consumers to suit your products- Arcane knowledge reintroduced by Edward Bernays and promoted to a few Presidential Administrations when consumerism was in it's golden era.

Trying to live up to popular stereotypes in a society that has been made to be ultra superficial where people of all ages shun others for slight differences is insane. And since it is the fake Hollywood culture that has the most effect on mass consciousness, naturally, whenever a woman becomes jaded and stops trying to live up to a person they are not, they shed this fake persona of themselves and adopt a ' real' acceptance that happiness comes from self acceptance.

In light of Haley speaking absolute truth about the horrible state in which North American food truly is in, I chose to provide my angle because I have personally seen the same stupid American style ,consumer and mindless entertainment culture poison the various unique cultures of Europe. Nonetheless, things are not looking good when the production of food is treated like factory assembly lines. Nor when life and nature are seen as machines for scientists to play God with.

In earlier times when disease was rampant, only a heavy woman could be considered as 'healthy'. You have heard of the wasting disease? Sick people were thin, or too poor to get food.

Also, in a cannibal society a fat cow was more valuable than a scrawny one.

Then you have people who are bad off, and praise themselves to raise their own minds self image, with followers who encourage them.

Finally, what are they going to do, they cannot run away from the problem?

Why I do not get is why anyone wants to be fat. Why would anyone want to lug all that horrible sweaty weight around? Not to mention the chafing thighs etc. Don't make no sense.

You've got problems dude.

Serious problems.

If you like Asian women so much, why are you concerned with black or white women?

Go fetishise your wife...that is, if you actually have one.

So Americans develop coping mechanisms to deal with their issues.

What I find astounding.... is you being blind about the food criminal practices of your American companies.

Here you are ranting out your petty frustrations...while you typical refuse to see this problem for what it really is...you Americans all being drugged up lab rats.

Even your so called "natural healthy food" is manipulated...and you try to bring that crap abroad and even put political pressure on other countries to buy your filthy trash you call food!

You do not care that people their brain receptors are being blocked so that they never feel full. You do not care that substances more addictive then cocaine goes in your "proud" American products. You do not care that half the contents cause cancer and other debilitating diseases.

Pfft war on drugs...the rest of the world should have a war on criminal food

They don't...and if some of them do why is it any of your business? A woman can do whatever she wants with her body if that mean getting obese or putting on weight so be it. There are plenty of men out there with weight issues too why aren't you saying anything about them?

I agree somewhat. Its sending the message that being fat is 'okaay' when really its costing the nhs a lot of money.. 😢