Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

Galatians 3:3

Several things made the folly of the Galatian Christians worse. They had the doctrine of the cross preached, and the Lord's supper administered among them, in both which Christ crucified, and the nature of his sufferings, had been fully and clearly set forth. Had they been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, by the ministration of the law, or on account of any works done by them in obedience thereto? Was it not by their hearing and embracing the doctrine of faith in Christ alone for justification? Which of these had God owned with tokens of his favour and acceptance? It was not by the first, but the last. And those must be very unwise, who suffer themselves to be turned away from the ministry and doctrine which have been blessed to their spiritual advantage. Alas, that men should turn from the all-important doctrine of Christ crucified, to listen to useless distinctions, mere moral preaching, or wild fancies! The god of this world, by various men and means, has blinded men's eyes, lest they should learn to trust in a crucified Saviour. We may boldly demand where the fruits of the Holy Spirit are most evidently brought forth? whether among those who preach justification by the works of the law, or those who preach the doctrine of faith? Assuredly among the latter.

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Yes, there is no way around it, trough the flesh we understand the spirit, just like a prisoner should learn in prison about the mistakes he made and rectify them, so that he can be free again

I'm fine thanks....not quite perfect....but nearly. Mo University Lecturer Atheist

65 year old flesh is hardly perfect.

No - it still rest in the brain - of thought - of what is right and wrong -

ye hate that stupid as word