How is trinity true if the first religion that started it was catholics? and they do things against the bible like honor saints?

You have to understand the history of these organizations. The Roman Catholic Church was a merger of how Romans typically ran religions with Christian beliefs. The Romans were pagans and didn't much care what you believed as long as you made the legally required token offerings to the State religion for the Emperor. To ease Christianity into the Empire, the Catholics adopted familiar organizational structures, festivals and beliefs because if they just told the Romans to drop everything and do things the Christian way, it's likely the Romans would have told the Christians to take a long walk off a short pier. The Pope was simply the Pontifex Maxiumus -- the traditional head of the Roman State Religion who coordinated religious practices throughout the Empire. The Saints were the way the Catholics kept some aspects of Roman paganism, but did so with a Christian spin on them so there wasn't a massive culture shock.

The Trinity wasn't started by Catholics. It is a divine truth that was defined by the only Christian faith, the Catholic Church.

The Catholic Church does not do anything "against the Bible." Everything the Church teaches and practices can be explicitly found, or implicitly supported with scripture.

The erroneous practice of literally interpreting scripture, and holding every belief false that isn't mentioned in it, is the problem. There is no scriptural or traditional basis for such an approach to the Bible or to the Christian faith.

1) How is trinity true if the first religion that started it was catholics?

The religion is called "Christianity". Catholicism is a subgroup - a denomination - of the religion of Christianity.

One can argue that Catholicism devised the trinity doctrine - but I think one can more successfully argue that they did not, that the trinity doctrine was devised before Catholicism existed. However, it depends entirely on your interpretation of the historical facts, so the truth of the statement "Catholicism devised the doctrine of trinity" is in fact a subjective determination.

However: **if** you want to argue that Catholicism devised the trinity doctrine, then you logically, necessarily **must** also argue that Catholicism devised the Christian Bible. You can't have it both ways. Logically, either Catholicism is responsible for both the Bible and the doctrine of trinity, or it is not responsible for the doctrine of trinity.

So: if I were to agree that Catholicism devised the doctrine of trinity, that would necessarily mean that Catholicism also devised the Christian Bible, thus proving that not all things devised by Catholicism are false or wrong or rejected by Christians at large.

2) and they do things against the bible like honor saints?

Technically speaking, that is NOT "against the Bible". I don't approve of such religious activity...but it certainly is not "against the Bible."

It's also irrelevant. Even if that behavior were "against the Bible", that does not mean that ALL things that Catholics have done or have devised are likewise "against the Bible". The Bible itself is the prime example.

Conclusion: whether or not Catholicism devised the doctrine of trinity has no logical relevance whatsoever to whether or not the doctrine of trinity is true.

Correction: the Trinity was first spoken about around 225 AD. At the time there was no established church. Note that the word 'catholic' means 'universal'. It wasn't until the 1st Council of Nicea, a hundred years later that the concept of the Trinity was established by what was to become the Orthodox church. This was under Constantine I, who, like St. Paul, was a convert to Christianity.

If it weren't for the Catholics, there would be no Bible. The Catholics began work on the Bible in 325, at the Council of Nicaea and the first complete manuscript was finished in 384 -- 292 years after Jesus died on the cross. In 385 Catholicism was made the last official religion of the Roman Empire. Christianity survived the collapse of the Roman Empire by legitimizing the right of European Kings to rule over their Christian subjects, for a percentage of each kingdom's future taxes.

Many who believe in the Trinity are surprised, perhaps shocked, to learn that the idea of divine beings existing as trinities or triads long predated Christianity. Yet, as we will see, the evidence is abundantly documented.

THE TRINITY IS PAGAN IN NATURE

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Other areas

Many other areas had their own divine trinities. In Greece they were Zeus, Poseidon and Adonis. The Phoenicians worshipped Ulomus, Ulosuros and Eliun. Rome worshipped Jupiter, Neptune and Pluto. In Germanic nations they were called Wodan, Thor and Fricco. Regarding the Celts, one source states, “The ancient heathen deities of the pagan Irish[,] Criosan, Biosena, and Seeva, or Sheeva, are doubtless the Creeshna [Krishna], Veeshnu [Vishnu], [or the all-inclusive] Brahma, and Seeva [Shiva], of the Hindoos” (Thomas Maurice, The History of Hindostan, Vol. 2, 1798, p. 171).

“The origin of the conception is entirely pagan”

YOU say honoring saints is "against the bible [sic]"... Who is telling you that?

Catholics would disagree... Catholics used the Bible long before your denomination existed.

Something is seriously wrong when one group of Christians attacks another group of Christians, instead of working on their own souls.

i dont think honoring saints is a sin! and the trinity has origins older than the catholic church as well. there seems to be archeological idols found with three heads that pre exist the birth of christ. i think the trinity is a perversion doctrine of the godhead. there are three that rule in heaven, says Paul, in 1Cor 8:

and if one reads the specific statements in verse 5, it says there are many gods in heaven, along with many that are called gods and idols in the earth. and if you compare the book of genesis without english translation you might find the phrase that the Gods created the earth and then the greater God brought the lesser God to this planet and then they created man upon the earth. the godhead does seem to be pluraistic, but Jesus describes it as a oneness. and he prayed for his people to become one with him, as they become one with This God. the ONE true God.

The trinity is closely outlined in The Old testament -- started by JEWS, not Catholics.

Check out the Chart...

"The Catholic Church is the largest Christian denomination with over 1.2 billion members—over half of all Christians worldwide—making it the world's second largest religious denomination after Sunni Islam.[1] However, the Catholic Church does not view itself as a denomination, but as the original pre-denominational church.[2] Protestant denominations account for roughly forty percent of Christians worldwide."