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How can people support both 2nd Amendment Rights and Donald Trump's anti-Muslim comments when these two stances contradict each other?
Gun rights activists often use the 2nd Amendment to support their cause. They argue that any type of gun regulation infringes on their Constitutional rights.
At the same time, Donald Trump's recent comments about banning Muslims from entering the country are a flagrant violation of the 1st Amendment.
My questions is especially for people who use the 2nd Amendment to argue for gun rights but also support Donald Trump. Do you see this as a contradiction? How do you justify it? Do you value the 2nd Amendment over the 1st Amendment? I'm genuinely trying to understand.
14 Answers
- Jeff DLv 75 years agoFavorite Answer
Sorry, but the first amendment doesn't say anything about immigration. Modern Supreme Court decisions such as Arizona v. United States have held that Congress has plenary (virtually absolute) power to regulate immigration. In fact, in current immigration law Congress has already granted the President the authority to suspend entry of any or all aliens on any basis the President deems fit. Section 212(f) of the Immigration and Naturalization Act, which provides:
(f)Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
"Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."
- Anonymous5 years ago
I do not support Trump, nor do I fall into the category of persons you are seeking to answer your question, but I am interested in what you asked, so I will answer. I do not see how Trump's suggestion that the US stop travel into the US of nationals from Islamic dominated nations violates the first amendment. The first amendment guarantees freedom of religion, speech, the press, assembly and petition. Trump's idea is to limit movement into the US by our enemies. Granted it seems to be based on a test of religion, but he is not limiting the practice of that religion, just the movement into the US of foreign nationals. Past presidents used similar actions to address security issues when the nation was threatened by an enemy. I am not saying it is the best solution, but it isn't something that cannot be considered. We need to talk about all options, including those that limit travel. We should air the pros and cons of all ideas. I do not find Trump's idea so very outlandish that it should not be even spoken about. Look at what we are dealing with. IS and copycat organizations are real threats, and need serious responses. Maybe Trump is not the best spokesperson for the solutions, but he is willing to speak about what many consider real solutions. It is good to air all views, and vet them.
- bilLv 75 years ago
Democrat 'people' do not support 2nd Amendment Rights, Obama will not even ask Pakistan about the 'little lady' as his solution seems to be: Restrict the gun rights of the law abiding, so he doesn't need to check those allowed in by Democrats. Donald Trump is not doing background checks, only 'homeland security people hired' by the Obama homeland security, and they seem to have GONE BACK to the pre 9/11 'Clinton vetting process.'
Source(s): Utah, was forbidden admittance to the United States, due to the Mormon stance on group 'marriage' when Utah 'changed' their religious beliefs they were admitted, similarly, Muslims should be admitted when they change, the 'kill the infidel' position. OR when we can discriminate between NON 'kill the infidel' ISLAMISTS, and the other kind. Obama has failed, and returned to the pre 9/11 security checks. - Anonymous5 years ago
I would like to know where in the 1st Amendment it says that foreigners have the constitutional right to come to America, expect the government to provide their needs and ignore all laws in favor of Sharia law. That is what is happening in Europe! As a result they are destroying the cultures of the countries and overwhelming the resources of those countries. Trumps suggestion isn't anti Muslim , it is anti terrorist. ISIS itself has said that they intend to hide among the refugees from Syria and enter various countries undetected. All Trump proposes is to halt the immigration until the incompetent federal government comes up with an system to screen the refugees. If you think that is a bad idea you are an idiot.
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- JohnLv 65 years ago
How is the 1st amendment violated by immigration restrictions? Our country has the sovereignty to decide what type of immigrants come in. Our 1st amendment implies that our government cannot establish a state religion nor can it keep others from practicing theirs. This has zero to do with the beliefs of an outside population that have a portion of members who openly proclaim ill intents. If you really want to see a culture and people who disdain the 1st amendment, look at the people who push for sharia law.
- okiknowitLv 75 years ago
The Second Amendment says nothing about freedom of religion. That is the First Amendment. And you might note that the Constitution does not apply to a non-citizen until they are inside the USA. Immigration officers can exclude non-citizens from entry for a variety of reasons. For instance former German Nazis are still excludable.
The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1880-1942 was found to be perfectly constitutional, even though it excluded people based on their race. But in the case of US v. Won Kim Ark, 1890 the court ruled that a US citizen cannot be excluded just because he is ethnically Chinese or even a dual Chinese-US citizen. It also affirmed that all persons born in the USA are natural born citizens regardless of their race, religion, or parents' immigration status.
- Texas PatriotLv 75 years ago
Amendments to the Constitution are meant for the citizens of this country not those who are invading our country. Trump never said he favored banning Muslims forever, he said we should put a temporary hold on them because we obviously have the good and the bad entering the country at the same time. Obama is just letting them walk right in.
- AnonymousLv 75 years ago
We do not respect any religions except Islam. This is the Saudi official policy: all religions other than Islam are false. Only Islam is the true religion. To accomplish this extremely bigoted notion, the Saudi state policy is to convert to Islam as many infidels as possible. So, proselytising for Islam is a major activity of the government and the religious department. Those who convert to Islam are rewarded handsomely. This is a kind of bribe, you might say—to force infidels into Islam. Those preachers and Islamic workers who succeed in converting the loathsome infidels to Islam might also expect to be richly rewarded.
In Saudi Arabia , discrimination against the non-Muslims is absolutely rampant, very clear and open. It starts with aqama (red cards for the non-Muslims and green cards for the Muslims). The rule on taxation is also different for the Muslims and the non-Muslims. This is open, clear and meticulously planned Islamic apartheid which might even surpass the enormity of the apartheid policies of the erstwhile South African government.
In Saudi Arabia , non-Muslims are merely tolerated. They have no right to build any places of worship for their customary religious rituals and practices. Non-Muslims are not allowed to observe their rites, celebrate their religious festivals or even extend congratulations to one another in front of any Saudis. If any infidels dare to carry out his religion openly, he is threatened with immediate deportation from Saudi Arabia .
Non-Muslims living in Saudi Arabia cannot marry any Muslim women. This is completely forbidden.
No non-Saudi could acquire Saudi Nationality either by birth or through naturalisation. Recently, there have been some minor changes to the Citizenship laws, but no non-Muslim could ever be awarded with Saudi citizenship.
- NamidLv 55 years ago
LMAO --- loving the non-answers here. They don't even understand the question, and certainly can't see their own hypocrisy. These sheeple can't think for themselves and believe whatever the talking heads say on Faux Nooz. But what can you expect, these are the very same people who claim to "love Jesus," and yet hate on everyone who is poor, homeless, hungry, or different looking. Jesus said to love ones enemies, but they don't even love victims of their enemies! The hypocrisy is truly staggering.
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