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What fulfilled Bible prophecy can be used as proof of god's existence?

People keep saying that Bible prophecies being fulfilled is proof of god. However, I can't seem to remember any prophecy that is specific enough to prove the existence of god. I only remember very vague prophecies that anyone can fulfill by total accident.

Update:

I was hoping for someone to try providing me with examples of the prophecies that supposedly prove the existence of god.

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  • 5 years ago
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    In the 1950's a series of caves was discovered in Israel near the Dead Sea which hold thousands of ancient Jewish manuscripts produced between about 300 BC and 150 BC. Among these are several copies of the Old Testament book of Daniel. Thanks to these manuscripts we know for a fact that the text of Daniel was in existence by at least 300 BC. The text claims to have been authored about 500 BC.

    In that text are detailed histories of the Mede, Persian, Greek, Rome, Byzantine, and Holy Roman Empires. At 500 BC, only the Mede empire existed. By 300 BC ( from when we have the suviving copies) the Persian empire was still in power.

    The book details marriages, allies, etc between four different divisions of the Greek empire. These are people who are well known in history. The fall of the Greek empire to Rome, the splitting of the Roman Empire into East and West, its conversion to a "Christian" nation, and it disintegration in the many nations of Europe are all details in the last half of the text of Daniel. These are events well supported by history.

    Of course, the usually answer given is "the text was not written until after these things happened". But thanks to the Dead Sea Scrolls we know that is not true. Plus the events foretold go into a least the 5th century AD, long after the text of Daniel is know to have existed, And if you agree with the historians who continue to the Roman role to the Kaiser of Germany, you have prophecies all the way into the 20th century. We know Daniel was composed hundreds of years before that.

    Or look at Psalms 22 some time. Thanks again to the Dead Sea Scrolls, we have copies of this Psalms from the 3rd century BC. (With it composition dating earlier then that - possibly 1000 BC,) It this one Psalm is list over 20 events that happened to Jesus while he was on the cross. Including his first and last word, the soldiers gambling for his clothing, that his hands and feet would be pierced, that he would be buried in a rich man's tomb, etc. Again, we know for a fact these were predicted hundreds of years before they happened.

    Then you have historical events like the fall to Tyre, Even though Tyre at the time of prophesy was a city at the top of a mountain, it predicted that Tyre would be surrounded by water and then burned with its own timber. Falling an earthquake 200 years later Tyre was relocated to an island, And that city overthrown when bridges were build from the original city ruins and used to first reach the island and then burned to take down the new city walls. Very specific prophecies supported by history.

    The prophesy that Babylon would fall to the Medes, the city would be destroyed and never rebuild. Babylon was destroyed and today in the 21st century still lies in ruins since that destroy about 1500 years ago. A very specific and remarkable prediction.

    6th century BC, the prophet Obadiah predicted the extermination of the nation Edom and connected it to the fall of the temple in Jerusalem. Both would be fulfilled in the Jewish Wars of 70 AD under the Roman general Titus. To predict that "some day" a nation would end is a general prophesy and likely to happen as all nations "end" at at some point in history. To place it in the same yea as the destruction of them temple 600 years later, so a very specific and NOT random prophecy. A later prophet (Zachariah) also predicted the end of the Caanite people at the same time. Titus also wiped out the last know Canaanites in 70 AD.

    Again, the prophet Daniel predicted the appearance of the "Messiah" "70 times 7" years after Cyrus would order the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem. This is exactly when Jesus began his public ministry. A very specific prophecy.

    There are many very specific prophecies in the scriptures that are known from history to have been fulfilled.

  • ?
    Lv 5
    5 years ago

    According to the Jewish Bible, which accurately predicted the Messiah and His role and was **written centuries** BEFORE Jesus ever arrived.

    And we know for sure these descriptions of the arriving Messiah were written centuries earlier.

    How? Archeology… By the most important archeological discovery in the early 20th century – THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS - which predate Jesus.

    When the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in the mid 20th century (in a cave near the Dead Sea in Israel) – they had been there since the time of Jesus. So, we now had copies dating back 1,000 years past the oldest copies that we had up to that point.

    The Bible predicted about the Messiah:

    • Born in Bethlehem..... The Jewish prophet said so in Micah 5:2

    • Reach many in Galilee..... The Jewish prophet said so in Isaiah 9:1

    • Born a descendant of David..... The Jewish prophet said so in 2 Samuel 7:12-13

    • Be a Leader like Moses.......... The Jewish prophet said so in Deuteronomy 18:18

    • Enter Jerusalem on a donkey..... The Jewish prophet said so in Zechariah 9:9

    • Arrive after King David died..... The Jewish prophet said so in 2 Samuel 7:12-13

    • A rejected man....... The Jewish prophet said so in Isaiah 53:3

    • Die as a substitute for others..... The Jewish prophet said so in Isaiah 53:5

    • Be pierced..................... The Jewish prophet said so in Zechariah 12:10

    • Rise from the dead...... The Jewish prophet said so in Isaiah 53:10

    • Have followers from all nations...... The Jewish prophet said so in Daniel 7:14

    And even MORE important..............

    • Messiah was to arrive BEFORE The Temple was destroyed in 70 C.E..... See -> Daniel 9:26 (Rome destroyed the Temple in the year 70CE. And Daniel (written centuries before this event) said the Messiah would arrive before this was to happen.

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    This is just the start…. Many more prophecies fulfilled.

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    Again – these Jewish writers all wrote centuries before Messiah Jesus ever arrived. So how do people conspire over centuries to make a fallacy - i.e. I will write this prophecy 700 years earlier and you – in the future claim fulfillment in Jesus. Really – How?? They cannot talk to each other across time?? Important Point. Please explain that if possible.

    It would be like you writing a book TODAY and making prophecies about a man to live in the future year 2715.

    A) Why would you even bother?

    B) How could you conspire with the people then (700 years from now) to make sure it was fulfilled?

    No other “religious book” has this. That is what makes the Bible so unique.

    And this is just the start…..

    The reasons list goes on and on,

    There is not a shadow of doubt - Yeshua (Jesus in Hebrew) was/is the Messiah of Israel.

  • 5 years ago

    What fulfilled Bible prophecy can be used as proof of god's existence?

    People keep saying that Bible prophecies being fulfilled is proof of god. However, I can't seem to reme

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  • 5 years ago

    Fulfillment of prophesy is not a good argument for the existence of God for the reason you mentioned - it doesn't matter how specific the prophesy happens to be, you can always dismiss it as coincidence. And failing that, you can claim that the prophesy was written after the supposed fulfillment. You probably don't realize what that's cheating - scholars are committed to materialism, so the fulfillment of prophesy is often used to date ancient works, i.e. by the assumption that the prophesy must have been written after the event it supposedly predicts.

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  • ?
    Lv 7
    5 years ago

    None. Even if there was a super accurate fulfilled Bible prophecy (which there isn't), that wouldn't be evidence of God. That'd merely be evidence of premonition.

  • 5 years ago

    For 2000 years no Israel then after WW 2 there is Israel.

    Jesus said Israel will be hated by all nations. Everybody hates Israel.

    This one is interesting. A lot of Christian ministers are still waiting on the first horse of the apocalypse. Three have rode already.

  • Pamela
    Lv 7
    5 years ago

    Fulfilled prophesy, like the bible itself is merely evidence for God not proof.

    And there is no shortage of evidence for Him. It is everywhere. You need only be willing to acknowledge it.

    The proof is in the softend heart and changed life of the believer when they encounter Him.

  • Anonymous
    5 years ago

    Citing prophecies for you is only part of your current predicament. The other vital element is being able to interpret them in the only context in which God reveals Himself as 'real' to anyone. That context is called 'natural liberty.'

    'Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.' (2 Corinthians 3:17).

    Since the Bible is explicitly clear on this point, it makes most sense to address any serious inquiry into God's existence by first reminding ourselves who precisely we are searching out. Otherwise, you won't know whether you have found it anyway. This is basic scientific method, which instructs its practitioners to first define the problem. Unfortunately, this is also where the scientific method departs from any helpful service since its next stage is to 'isolate, then analyze.' This is immediately problematic when searching out the existence of a God whose first public declaration is that His is 'One,' explaining what this means to us by claiming that He cannot be divided or diminished. This makes our subject impossible to 'isolate or analyze,' which by definition requires being able to divide it into smaller parts or separate it from larger systems.

    Fortunately, not all methods of knowledge are as rigid as the Method and are still able to provide sufficient proof of a phenomenon to remove all reasonable doubt of its existence and interactive properties. Such is the case with a God who parallels His presence directly with natural liberty and then demonstrates those proofs only within dramas expressing it. This includes what the Bible calls 'prophecy.'

    Prophecy is the not only words. It is always a set of corresponding dramas serving to illustrate the very specific meanings of those words as well. Without both, those meanings can be obscured as you described in your question. You presume that this must inevitably be the case, since those dramas are unfamiliar to you. They are only unfamiliar to you however, because you have no experience with natural liberty.

    In very practical terms, natural liberty is what happens when we make the decision to speak or act without first gaining official permissions from government authorities, while also continuing to respect the basis of law, morality and ethics. These are rare dramas indeed. Most of the time, people are either intimidated by governing authorities into acting or speaking only by their permission, or into adopting criminal identities in response to that authority. They forget that there is a third option. Christ describes these unique dramas as a 'narrow gate' into a hidden path, (Matthew 7:13-14). God is found only upon this unique path. The longer we can stay upon it, the more abundant the evidence. Many people spend their entire natural lives without ever visiting it. They exist inside of a very real cage. Their searches only demonstrate that God and His liberty do not exist inside of that cage.

    While government whispers in your ear, or criminals threaten, you cannot hear the actual words of a prophet. They speak as genderless unfiltered channels of pure inspiration welling up from the deepest depths of human art and without any private interpretations attached. They do not even represent one particular religious tradition. Their submissions are placed there after the fact. Such a person cannot exist in a world where either governments must always first approve and where criminals immediately exploit those who dare to speak or act without this official approval....and yet they do. They both exist and have made thousands of submissions, every one of which is a profound proof of God's existence and ability to preserve their unique liberty. In fact, anyone anywhere who practices natural liberty is part of one of those prophetic statements.

    The full impact of them is only felt by those seeing clearly the source of the prophecy. Those trying to interpret it through the lens of government license will fail to see what is right in front of them. Likewise, those searching for criminal intent and means of overthrowing governments will find only enigmas leading nowhere while enduring constant attack by frightened 'officials.' Neither interpretation will lead you to the proofs you seek. That does not mean that they do not exist. It only means that they don't exist inside of your cage of intellectual oppression.

  • Anonymous
    5 years ago

    An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign but none will be given to it

    Source(s): Matthew 12:39
  • Keith
    Lv 7
    5 years ago

    I am alive and God wakes me up every morning.

    One day he will call me home.

    Either way God rules.

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