Trinitarians quote 1 John 5: 7 to support this addition to RCC doctrines long ago. This verse doesn't appear in any early Greek MSS. True?

Absolutely true.

The authenticity of First John was never questioned. However, it is to be noted that some older translations have added to chapter 5 the following words at the end of verse 7and the beginning of verse 8: “In heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth.” (King James Version) But this text is not found in any of the early Greek manuscripts and has obviously been added to bolster the Trinity doctrine.

Most modern translations, both Catholic and Protestant, do not include these words in the main body of the text.

True, but to attack the Trinity doctrine as a whole because of one questionable verse would would be foolish and futile. The whole of scripture supports the Doctrine of the Holy Trinity; it is not some fly-by-night addition to the acceptable cannon of scripture. The Trinity is supported in both the New and in the Old Testament.

True;

This is just one reason why the KJV isn't the great and wonderful translation people believe it to be.

There are better translations available today.

The KJV has inserted the trinity into many verses; along with other false beliefs.

Edit to David:

I have never said the KJV is 100% wrong.

If I had only two choices of an English language, the KJV or the NIV, I would pick the KJV.

Happily we are not restricted to just 2 translations.

Again you seem to insert your own interpretation into what I have said.

Is the KJV better in the use of God's name?

Yes when compared to the NASB, but it is sadly lacking when compared to the ASV.

In this matter, the NASB backslide to teach, God's name is worthless.

I'm not surprise when you misquote me, since this is what you do with God's word, you insert your belief on God and then claim to have the truth, this in effect makes God the liar.

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Well, you might as well throw out your Bible altogether, if you would rather follow the teachings of some scholar who came very, very late to the game. I suggest you go to the Church of Bart Ehrman who says that, with the exception of some letters from Paul, that your whole Bible is sh*t.

It does appear in some of the earlier Greek MSS, but not all. That is why the debate continues. What also is debated is the addition, by name, of "the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost", which most scholars agree are the three referenced by the verses. Though the term "Trinity" is not found or used in the scriptures, it does serve as a label for the concept of the triune nature and attributes of the living God that is revealed.

That's the foot note in my NASB bible. IF 1 John 5:7 were the only indication of the Trinity, one could conclude that it's a false teaching. But there are far more places in Scripture that teach the Trinity than just 1 John 5:7.

I never quote it. The words of Christ himself confirm the existence of the Trinity when he tells us to baptize "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." Are you going to call them "spurious"?

And you mean Christians. ALL Christians are Trinitarian.

YOU ALREADY KNOW!

YET ANOTHER LYING PASSAGE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH "ADDED" (REVELATION 22:18) INTO SCRIPTURE TO (((TRY))) AND JUSTIFY THEIR LYING TRINITY!

"THE FOOLS" LEFT JESUS OUT OF HEAVEN AND STARTED TEACHING "JESUS IS THE WORD" TO COVER IT UP ALTHOUGH "GOD HAD NOT MANIFESTED HIMSELF IN THE FLESH" (I TIMOTHY 3:16) >>>"IN THE BEGINNING"<<< AS THEY MISINTERPRET JOHN 1:1!

CALLING GOD "A LIAR" IN ISAIAH 44:24 WHEN HE SAID

"Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens ALONE; that spreadeth abroad the earth BY MYSELF!"

THEY METICUOUSLY "ADDED" LIES INTO SCRIPTURES TO HAVE MANKIND

LOSE THEIR SOULS!

THE ANTICHRIST!

"...BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH" (REVELATION 17:5)!

"...AND THOSE WHO WALK IN PRIDE HE IS ABLE TO ABASE" (DANIEL 4:37)!

INCLUDING HIS >>> SHOOT OFFS!<<<

Probably not...I wasn't there, but evidence is strong against that theory.

There are still many verses that speak of Jesus' deity. I would list some, but you'd probably find some OTHER antagonist that said they were false, too.

The verse in question was quoted in 200 AD extra-Biblically by Tertullian, Cyprian of Carthage in 250 AD, and by several others on through the centuries...so to say it wasn't in SOME manuscript somewhere very early on is not terribly likely. The more likely explanation is that it was removed from the "Majority" Greek texts (Eastern Othodox, for example, the ones who mainly used it, would have had cause to remove it) for some doctrinal convenience.

This becomes even more likely when you find out that the entire book of 1 John isn't in some of the Greek texts.

True and yet its quoted on R and S regularly in support of the Trinity doctrine....go figure?