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Did god forsake Jesus on the cross or no?

I thought he said he would never forsaken anyone who believed in him?

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  • Joe
    Lv 4
    2 weeks ago
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    No.  If the Father forsook the Son the Trinity would be destroyed.  However, the Father did pour out His complete wrath on the Son in fulfillment of all righteousness.

  • T C
    Lv 7
    2 weeks ago

    Matthew 27:46

    And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

    Consider the following scripture:

    John 10:30

    I and my Father are one.

    The word one hen neuter, means “one in purpose”

    How could they be one in purpose….. and have God forsake Him on the cross.

    How about:

    II Corinthians 5:19a

    To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself…

    How could God be in Christ and forsake him?

    John 16:32

    Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me

    Matthew 26:53

    Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels

    God would give Jesus more than 72,000 angles…. At any point Jesus could have walked away with a massive amount of spiritual body guards.

    So how do we reconcile these scriptures with Matthew 27:46… it would appear to be a contradiction of terms.

    It has been said that God hated sin so much that he had to turn away during the final moments of His only begotten sons life…..I don't think so.

    One of the principles of biblical research is when you have several clear verses, and one that seemingly contradicts those clear then it is either in our understanding, or in translation…..In this case it is translation.

    The words Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani are Aramaic, that is the language Jesus spoke

    There is no such Aramaic word as lama however there is a word lmna which is a declaration as in “for this reason” or “for this purpose”

    The word sabachthani comes from the root word shbk which means “to spare, or to keep, to leave, or reserve”.

    (The word remaining in the following verses have all been translated from shbk II Kings 10:11, Deuteronomy 3:3, Joshua 10:33)

    Literally this should read Eli, Eli, lmna sabachthani that is to say, “My God, My God, for this reason, or for this purpose was I reserved, or spared”.

    For this purpose Christ came into this world, the purpose of redemption…

    Now that would be an interesting study if we left it there…but let’s put some icing on the cake

    **From the Peshitta {Aramaic text} this reads Eli, Eli, lemana shabakthani “My God, My God, for this I was spared or this was my destiny”.

    **Another interesting fact: all eastern Bibles have “for this purpose I was spared” while the Occidental translations read “why hast thou forsaken me.

  • 2 weeks ago

    No, not in an absolute sense, but most likely Jesus felt that way.

  • 2 weeks ago

    Psalm 22.  God could not countenance the burden of sin as Christ became sin bearer, sin offering, sin substitute.  Isaiah 53, 1 Cor. 15:1-4.

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  • ?
    Lv 7
    2 weeks ago

    He said so. His role was to perform that task, that place that should be for all of us, he took that kind of severe punishment.

    Isaiah 53

    He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,

        nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

    3 He was despised and rejected by mankind,

        a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.

    Like one from whom people hide their faces

        he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

    4 Surely he took up our pain

        and bore our suffering,

    yet we considered him punished by God,

        stricken by him, and afflicted.

    5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,

        he was crushed for our iniquities;

    the punishment that brought us peace was on him,

        and by his wounds we are healed.

    6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,

        each of us has turned to our own way;

    and the Lord has laid on him

        the iniquity of us all.

  • 2 weeks ago

    i dont think so

  • 2 weeks ago

    You do know that Jesus was quoting Psalm 22? 

    My God, my God, why have You forsaken me?

    Far from my help are the words of my groaning.

     My God, I cry out by day, but You do not answer;

    And by night, but I have no rest.

    Yet You are holy,

    You who are enthroned upon the praises of Israel.

    In You our fathers trusted;

    They trusted and You rescued them.

     

    To You they cried out and they fled to safety;

    In You they trusted and were not disappointed.

     But I am a worm and not a person,

    A disgrace of mankind and despised by the people.

     All who see me deride me;

    They sneer, they shake their heads, saying,

    Turn him over to the Lord; let Him save him;

    Let Him rescue him, because He delights in him.”

    Yet You are He who brought me forth from the womb;

    You made me trust when upon my mother’s breasts.

     I was cast upon You from birth;

    You have been my God from my mother’s womb.

     Do not be far from me, for trouble is near;

    For there is no one to help.

     Many bulls have surrounded me;

    Strong bulls of Bashan have encircled me.

     They open their mouths wide at me,

    As a ravening and roaring lion.

     I am poured out like water,

    And all my bones are out of joint;

    My heart is like wax;

    It is melted within me.

     My strength is dried up like a piece of pottery,

    And my tongue clings to my jaws;

    And You lay me in the dust of death.

     For dogs have surrounded me;

    A band of evildoers has encompassed me;

    They pierced my hands and my feet.

    I can count all my bones.

    They look, they stare at me;

     They divide my garments among them,

    And they cast lots for my clothing.

     But You, Lord, do not be far away;

    You who are my help, hurry to my assistance.

     Save my soul from the sword,

    My only life from the power of the dog.

     Save me from the lion’s mouth;

    From the horns of the wild oxen You answer me.

     I will proclaim Your name to my brothers;

    In the midst of the assembly I will praise You.

     You who fear the Lord, praise Him;

    All you descendants of Jacob, glorify Him,

    And stand in awe of Him, all you descendants of Israel.

    For He has not despised nor scorned the suffering of the afflicted;

    Nor has He hidden His face from him;

    But when he cried to Him for help, He heard.

    From You comes my praise in the great assembly;

    I shall pay my vows before those who fear Him.

     The afflicted will eat and be satisfied;

    Those who seek Him will praise the Lord.

    May your heart live forever!

     All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the Lord,

    And all the families of the nations will worship before You.

     For the kingdom is the Lord’s

    And He rules over the nations.

    All the prosperous of the earth will eat and worship,

    All those who go down to the dust will kneel before Him,

    Even he who cannot keep his soul alive.

     A posterity will serve Him;

    It will be told of the Lord to the coming generation.

     They will come and will declare His righteousness

    To a people who will be born, that He has performed it.

  • Anonymous
    2 weeks ago

    In that moment of time, the penalty for the sins of people were placed on Him. Sin separates us from God. He endured what we deserved, but even death cannot hold the One who holds the keys to both life and death. 

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