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IF, Bret Hart, entered MMA back in 1995 +/-, would he have risen to the top?
I guess this was considered by fans of his or himself back when he was in his prime. Hypothetically, if he took time off from pro-wrestling (a la Brock Lesnar) and entered that early MMA period, would he have dominated?
These are the days of: Royce Gracie, Dan Severn, Mark Coleman, Marco Ruas, Steve Jennum (!), Kimo, Ken Shamrock, etcetra...Could he have found his own in that group?
Hart was an exceptional amateur wrestler for starters. So, he had that going for him. He also trained in catch/submission styled wrestling too at the, "dungeon." Would this have been good enough,or, would he just fallen short?
Opinions.....
3 AnswersWrestling9 years agoWhat makes up a good TECHNICAL WRESTLER? It seems a bit confusing to me...?
What makes a good technical wrestler? I see a lot of different answers/thoughts/opinions. I know: Kurt Angle, Bret Hart, Christ Benoit, Curt Henning, Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, etc. tend to get high votes for being good technical wrestlers. But, what about them makes them good technical wrestlers? Are these guys truely the best of the best in technical wrestling, now or of all time? What about others wrestlers in other countries?
Okay here's my thoughts....
- CHAIN WRESTLING: Linking one move to the next in a sequence. Hold for hold, counter for counter. Tends to be a trademark of technical wrestling but, some of the wrestlers who are considered good technical wrestlers rarely do this, especially in WWE.
- REALISTIC GRAPPLING MOVES: Wrestlers that are considered good technically usually have some type of legit grappling background such as: amateur wrestling (freestyle/collegiate), greco roman, judo, brazillian jiujitsu, sambo, catch wrestling, etc. Ok, ok,.....If you look at the Japanese they have some of the most realistic submission styled wrestling of anybody! But, rarely do we consider them such great technical wrestlers (?) Also, there are tons of wrestlers that have moves that are a bit fake/unrealistic but, are still considered good technical wrestlers, what?
- A HIGH QUANTITY OF HOLDS: This seems to be another guideline for a good technical wrestler. Wasn't it Dean Malenko that was, "the man of a 1,000 holds?" Yes, Malenko is a good technical wrestler no doubt whatsoever! But, just having a wide array of moves considers you a good technically? Does this include: striking, high flying, brawling, hardcore, etc. types of moves/holds? Or is it just grappling moves only?
- MAT WRESTLING: Mat wrestling pops up a lot in being good technically. But, how much mat wrestling do we really see in an average pro styled match? Yeah, in the Olympics we tend to see some mat wrestling but, pro style? Even those considered good technically tend to not spend too much on the mat...
Anyway, I guess it's just one of those questions with a lot of differing opinions. What do you consider good technical wrestling?
For my vote it's a combo of: chain wretling, realistic moves, a high quantiy of holds, and matwork. Some examples of great technical wrestlers: Judo Pete Roberts, Kazushi Sakaraba, Lou Thesz, and Ed "Strangler" Lewis.
6 AnswersWrestling9 years agoAnybody think that Aliens are the link between religion/atheism? They are behind it all?
I see people of religion who are sincere and believe all over the world from ever where. The thing being is that they largely disagree with one another. There is no real unifying religon that everybody on the planet agrees too, yet, they believe.
All the religions also have very far out, fantasy like elements to them. There are elements you just don't normaly see in everyday life in 2012. Yet, at one time, they are seeing something.
Could it be that what they saw was alien life? This would explain why these religions describe what they see in such outlandish details. Could it be just a misinterpretation?
Most of these people usually talk abou their god/gods coming from the sky/outer space (Christianity, Islam, and Judaism included). Some of the religions are very frank and say their god/gods cam from outer space and gave them special knowledge that is practically demonstrated in their culutures (such as the ancient Mayan culture). How else did they get this knowledge?
Anyway, the atheism part comes in where they see the relgions being very fanciful and lacking practical application to modern 2012 life. They see something wrong and misguided about the whole thing.
But,where the atheists lack is in the fact something seems to be going on. Why all these world religons? Are they all just out of imagination? Why do the majority say their god/gods came from the sky/outer space consistetly?
Could it be, that Aliens are behind it all, and that both atheists and people of religion are "right" in their own perspective?
11 AnswersReligion & Spirituality9 years agoIf Christianity is based on solid scholarship, science, etcetra. why does it seem not enought to the atheists?
I've seen a few answers from a user that talk about the 2,000 years of Christian scholarship be the done deal for questions against it.
Why isn't this convincing the atheists then?
25 AnswersReligion & Spirituality9 years agoShould I stay with pure Judo (for Judo competition) or crosstrain in submission grappling/BJJ to get better?
I have the opportunity at my gym to crosstrain in submission grappling (a mix of BJJ/Greco Roman/freestyle wrestling) if I wanted.
My main interest is really Judo and Judo competition, but, is that enough?
Most competitiors anymore seem to crosstrain and have an advantage on the ground. But, is all that necessary?
A Judo match isn't groundwork alone, and, groundwork is limited and diffferent in Judo than Submission grappling tournaments.
Is it better just to focuse on Judo's strengths (ie throwing) or will all these BJJ/submission grappling guys skirt the rules and eat me alive to bad on the mat?
5 AnswersMartial Arts9 years agoDoes it impress you when a wrestler can shoot (wrestle for real) if had/wanted too.?
Do you like the idea of your favorite pro-wrestlers being able to grapple for real if they had/wanted to?
Or does it even matter? As long as they can do all the showy, entertaining, actor/stuntman type moves, who cares if they could hold their own in an amateur wrestling, submisson wrestling, or MMA match?
I personal like they idea of a top wrestling superstar being able to shoot if they had to, like Kurt Angle, for instance.
4 AnswersWrestling9 years agoOPINION: Why, in general, do most people prefer BRAZILLIAN JIUJITSU over JUDO?
In my area of the US, I see Judo struggling. There aren't that many dojos around and few people take it if there are some.
Brazillian Jiujitsu is usually well attended and popular.
Now, I don't think BJJ and Judo are virtually the same. But, they are very similar to one another, to the point where I don't see one having a huge popularity over the other.
It seems to me, what do you prefer? An emphasis on throwing or an emphasis on groundwork? It generaly sums up the differences.
I prefer Judo myself. I like the different throws and the challenge to use and throw someone with them. I don't prefer to wrestle for 5 minutes on the ground instead. I like groundwork but, not as a marathon like BJJ. But, that's my preference.
Any opinions on why Judo seems to be so 2nd class? If Judoka won more early MMA contests would that have made a difference? Is the throwing the turn off?
10 AnswersMartial Arts9 years agowhat skills/moves make a wrestler a good technical wrestler? What is a technical wrestler in your opinion?
I guess I always find this confusing.
On one hand I hear good technical wrestling involves: realistic wrestling moves, chain wrestling, submissions, a wide use of different moves, etcetra. Ok, that sounds about right...
Then I look at people's list for "good" technical wrestlers: Bret Hart, Chris Benoit, Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, and, they, though excellent pro-wrestlers, don't quite fit that characterization.
I see clips of Bret Hart and he is usually not doing any of those things on a consistent basis. He is suppose to be one of the best, if not THE best technical wrestler ever.
So, what does make a good technical wrestler?
I guess in my opinion, instead of most of the WWE (American/Canadian) styled wrestling I would have to vote for: British, Japanese, and early pre 40s or 50s American/Canadian wrestling.
If you ever watch the Japanese doing 1980s/1990s shoot style pro-wrestling you will witness excellent exhibitions of catchascatch can wrestling. It definetly could pass for real if you didn't no better. It fits all that I see of technical wrestling. The moves are straight from "real" wrestling, fluid backtoback chain wrestling, submissions, a wide variety of moves, locks, counters, you name it. Kazushi Sakaraba being one of the best I've seen.
Next to the Japanese are the British wrestlers. These guys are probably the defintion of technical wrestling as seen through pro-wrestling eyes. Anything that passes for technical wrestling in the Amercian/Canadian rings is done with expert, consistent, skilled, professionalism in the British rings. It may be considered sheer boredom in the US, but, wow, they are amazing. Their moves are definetly less realistic than the Japanese but, very fluid just the same.
Then the early Amercian/Canadian masters like Lou Thesz, Ed Strangler Lewis, and others like them who were usally skilled in submission catchascatchcan wrestling too. They do very well but, on what seems to be technical wrestling.
Why do these guys get overlooked and guys that do far less of technical wrestling get the recognition? Am I not seeing it? Is my idea of technical wrestling incomplete?
What are your views? Like I said don't get me wrong. I love Benoit, Hart, Bryan, Punk, and all. I just don't see how they are super top notch technical wrestlers compared to British/Japanese or the early legends like Thesz and Lewis.
5 AnswersWrestling9 years agoIs grabbing a t-shirt (in street/self defense) to use JUDO throws a bad idea? If so, what would work better?
I have read some comments that tend to treat using Judo in self defense it's better to use no gi grips. But, it seems to me that grabbing the tshirt isn't such a bad idea. It's fairly strong material as such and gives you a familiar grip. Any thoughts?
What other grips would you use then?
12 AnswersMartial Arts9 years agoHow effective is JUDO in MMA? Has Judo and Judo based fighters already peaked in MMA or is their more to come?
I'm just wondering what others think of Judo in MMA.
Now, there are several fighters out there that use some select Judo techniques in their aresenals (even thought they don't study pure judo ie nick diaz comes to mind) and guys who have studied Judo as a sideline but specialize in another art (ie Fedor and Sambo. Nogueira and BJJ. Aoki and BJJ. Jacare Souza and BJJ. etc.) and they are successful. I guess they show some of Judo's effectiveness but, their cross training overshadows it a lot. Fedor does Judo but, his Sambo is what really shows in his fighting instead.
The "pure" or heavily based Judo fighters are what I'm also wondering. The early Judokas did poorly. The others have had mostly mediocre careers (Hidehiko Yoshida, Naoya Ogawa), some have flopped (Pawel Nasutla, Ben Spijkers) and a few have done well (Karo Paryisan and Rhonda Roussey, Hector Lombard).
Any thoughts on Judo in MMA? Do you see it as useful as the other main styles like: BJJ, Wrestling and Muay Thai. Or more the fringe arts like: Karate, Sambo, Capoeira, Tae Kwon Do, Greco Roman, etc.?
5 AnswersMartial Arts9 years agoHow important is JUDO KATA for using JUDO for SELF-DEFENSE?
All the "street/no rules" techniques of Judo are found in their katas. Katas aren't taught until black belf I think.
How important are these katas to Judo self defense? Are they just out dated nonsense? Essential to "street self defense" judo? Or something in-between?
I have an opportunity to study some mediocre Japanese Jujutsu. I was wondering if it would be worth it to start rounding out my sport Judo. My school doesn't teach kata. My understanding is that kata is basically Japanese Jujutsu anway.
1 AnswerMartial Arts9 years agoWhat would be the PERCENTAGE of CHRISTIANS who believe based on evidence/facts and not blind faith?
The percentage of Christains who have thought Christianity through and could give a good scientific/analytical basis for their belief.
8 AnswersReligion & Spirituality9 years agoOpinions on Olympic/Sport Judo for self defense?
1 AnswerOlympics9 years agoWill the "GODS" return at the end of the MAYAN calender 2012? GODS=ALIENS?
Most religions have an "end times" scenario where they (the gods) comeback and a new world is established. Some think that the end of the Mayan calender is the time they will come back. The Mayans were believers in their gods being from outer space and gave them advanced science (their words/beliefs). They believe they will return. Some point to December 2012 as that time. Thoughts/opinions?
Ancient astronaut theory tends to be the bridge between religion and atheism.
6 AnswersReligion & Spirituality9 years agoIf top 10 level boxers fought in MMA, in their primes, do you think they could succeed even w/little grappling?
The boxers that have fought in MMA are usually the washed up, never wases, has been types. I mean they could knock the block off the average guy with no problem but, the MMA elite cagefighters no way. James Toney is a good example of this. A certified legend in boxing, but, really pretty much washed up and not super competitive with MMA's cagefighting eltie. If he could dance and move, maybe, he would/could do better. But, Toney's so stationary anymore he is wide open target for MMA's grappling.
So, anyway, what if some of boxing's top 10 elite started entering MMA in their primes? Sure, they wouldn't have much time to crosstrain in grappling, kicking, tactics outside boxing very much (because that takes years, time, they can't total afford to take off for). But, these guys can move top speed, have super sharp relfelxes, mind numbing power, quick elusive footwork, all from being in their boxing primes. Do you think that would make a difference?
I wonder if you took a: Floyd Mayweather, Wladimir and Vitali Klitchko, and others, how would they fare? Would even a prime time Muhammad Ali have had a chance in MMA?
7 AnswersBoxing9 years agoAny thoughts on ANCIENT ASTRONAUT THEORY (that ALIENS are behind RELIGON)?
Anybody believe aliens are/where behind the worlds' relgions/myths?
There is no denying that the entire world has some type of religion/myth in their particular culture. Why would people make up all of these religons consistently? Why not just be atheist and forget all this "weird" explanations of things? Are people that bored or imaginative? Or could it be....aliens.
Aliens visiting earth many years ago could expalin all the worlds' relgions. Primitive people could easily misinterpret advanced alien technology as supernatural/gods. Wouldn't "primitive" people today think are modern technology is god like/supernatural? Yes, they would. Why is hard to think that ancient people, our ancestors, did they same thing? These misinterpetations became religions that we follow today.
Who can expalin our relgions? Does anyone have definitve proof/logic their religon is real? But, still, something must be going on for all the worlds' cultures to belive in gods. Not only gods, but, almost unanimously, gods that come from the sky.
Some religons pointedly say that their gods came from the stars/different planets. Ancient drawings depict alien looking beings. UFOs have been reported all throughout histroy (as well as today).
Is it really that nuts to think, maybe, just maybe, that aliens are behind it all?
13 AnswersReligion & Spirituality9 years agoIf punching to the head is bad (broken hands), what are some good alternatives for self defense?
Many people cite that punching to the head with bare fists tend to lead to broken hands. Hey, I've broken my hand, and it's not a good feeling (don't want to do that again). But, many martial arts/combat sports still teach punching to the head with the bare fist. Karate, tkd, boxing, mma, muay thai, kung fu all make use of the fist to head.
What are some good alternatives to use the bare fist to the head for primary offense? Or, is just taking your chances with a bare fist to the head still a better choice?
10 AnswersMartial Arts10 years agoHow often should you use the "kiai/kihap" when using karate/tkd?
I've wondered about how often the kihap in tkd should be used. I've seen some use it with every strike, some never use it, and others use it only once in a while. Is there a certain way the kihap/kiai whould be employed in sparring/real self defense?
8 AnswersMartial Arts10 years agoAnybody believe in ANCIENT ASTRONAUT THEORY? (Aliens may behind the world's religions/myths?
I've been watching, Ancient Aliens, on the History channel lately and reading, Chariots of the Gods. Aliens may seem far fetched to explain many of the mysteries of the world, granted, but, plausible I believe.
If you are a believer of a relgion, think of the very wild outlandish supernatural events that are discussed. How were these possible? Why don't those things happen in 2011 or even within recent memory? Why were they happening back then but, not now?
Since the rise of technology and science more and more things are starting to be seen logically and more rationally. We laugh at past myths/relgions but, then, hold on to similar beliefs ourselves.
Could these amazing designs such as the Pyramids, and the gods from the sky really indeed be aliens instead misinterpreted?
Atheism dismisses relgion/myths but, then again, many worldwide unexplainable/mysterious events have occured. Why? How? If it wasn't supernatural, then, what was it?
10 AnswersReligion & Spirituality10 years ago