Are Catholics REALLY this Sneaky?

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Pistols at dawn,may the best denomination win....Show more

That angel of great counsel thing is a new one on me. That's a straw man argument: Saying that Catholics believe this or that and then demonstrating why this or that cannot be.

Did "Catholics" Invent the trinity? One could argue yes, because until the various sectarian schisms, to be Christian was to be "Catholic" i.e. "Universal". In that respect the founding father of the church, who understood Jesus better than anyone by virtue of having lived with him and known him directly, understood the triune nature of God.

There's a lot of Catholic haters, usually hailing from the buckle of the Bible belt, who are brought up to hate Catholics as idolators and worshippers of Mary, etc., without ever having known a Catholic or investigated catholicism. These people will never pass on a chance to spread lies about what Catholics believe, even though what they say has nothing to do with Catholicism.

The one thing I can say about the catholic church, is that I have NEVER heard criticism of other faiths or other people's beliefs from the pulpit.

No, Catholics are not that sneaky. Get a copy of the Catechism of the Catholic church, if you want the straight scoop on what the catholic church teaches....Show more

No, Catholics don't believe that Jesus is an angel. They believe that He is the Son of God and the Messiah. The Trinity was not invented by the Catholic church. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all mentioned in the Bible....Show more

EXACTLY!

It's like when Catholics are accused of worshipping Mary - and Catholics deny it of course.

Catholics obviously believe that their Church's teachings are Truth. Therefore, it makes no sense for a Catholic to deny Mary worshop, IF that's what really went on it the Catholic Church.

Therefore, the very fact Catholics deny Mary worship is self-evident proof that there is no such thing as Mary worship in the Catholic Church.

Anti-Catholics still won't believe it, of course. It just goes to show that you can lead a horse to water, but cannot make it drink....Show more

Well, the problem here is that their is a ton of misinformation out there about Catholicism. Really, it shows the power of history. Our public schools teach a very out of date, inaccurate, and also anti-Catholic version of history. This version of history was adopted from the English, which didn't have much positive to say in the 19th and 20th centuries.

Case in point, somebody said that nobody stood up to the Inquisition. This is a false statement. First, there were many Inquisitions, most of them were non violent and only created Ecclesiasticle courts to bring "criminals" to trial. Now I will admit, the medieval and early modern definition of criminal is different than ours today.

Anyway, the Inquisition the person was refering to was most likely the Spanish Inquisition. Well, the Spanish Inquisition is poorly understood due to this poor education which begins in middle school. First, the Spanish Inquisition was created by King Ferdinand of Spain as a political move to "protect" Spain. Keep in mind, Spain had just recaptured their lands from the Islamic Moores, it is pretty reasonable to assume that the Spanish Government would take an anti-islamic stand. But in reality, the Pope at the time rejected the Spanish Inquisition, sadly, the Spanish Crown was too powerful.

Furthermore, in 200 years of operation, the Spanish Inquisition opperating in Spain and her colonies in the New World killed just of 1000 people. When you compair the amount of exicutions the United States has carried out since 1930, just under 4,500, you see that the Spanish Inquisition wasn't as dramatic as movies and high school classes like to say.

This is but one of the many examples.

Galileo and the rejection of science by the Church. Find me one other person who was condemned by the Catholic Church for scientific discovery. You wont find another. The issue with Galileo had more to do with personal and political rivalrys.

Martin Luther... Other than indulgences, how was the Catholic Church corrupt? How are indulgences any different than donations? Few can answer this question. How were Luthers followers any less corrupt?

The list goes on and on....Show more