What the problem with checking to see if someone is in the country legally?

An immigrant or a temporary worker is REQURIED by FEDERAL law to keep their papers on them at all times. So if you get stopped and don’t have papers you are either a citizen or in the country illegally. They are the only people who will be detained for a check to see if they are here legally. Since most people carry papers, IE driver’s license SSN card etc it should only take a few seconds to separate those who are here legally and those that need to be sent back to their home country. It might take a little longer if you don’t have any means to identify yourself, but it is a small price to pay to get rid of people who have proven they don’t respect the laws of the US.

Oh and don’t give me the bull about, what if they’ve been here since they were a kid nonsense, they only have to look at their parents and ask them why they broke the law and put them into this situation.

2010-05-02T10:24:48Z

To Mercedes


Well who are they going to blame? I didn’t break the law, their parents did. Would you be grateful if your parents stole a really nice car and gave it to you? Even it gave you opportunities that you wouldn’t otherwise have. Even if you have the car for a really long time?

BTW you would lose the bet I know people who have be deported because they were here illegally and who were brought into the US by their parents, do I feel for them yes, but I’m not to blame, you’re not to blame it’s their parents who broke the law. I also know people who have lost their jobs because of the illegal aliens my friend went to New Orleans to do clean up and construction, he was there about a month then his boss took him and other aside and said the “Mexicans are here so we don’t need you.” So don’t tell me they are only taking job that American won’t do.

2010-05-02T10:25:14Z

You’ll notice that the women who voted illegally went to court and took their punishment. I admire the people who defied the draft and went to court and took their punishment. I admire people who take a stand and say a law is unjust, but when you break the law you must be willing to take the punishment for breaking that law. Break the law if you feel it is unjust, but you must be willing to take the punishment.

We still deny people into this country for many reason, we have policy to protect the interests of the US. Sorry but the US should look after it citizens FIRST.

2010-05-02T10:26:06Z

To Kyle

You are asked for your “papers” many times. Ever been stopped by a traffic officer? One of the first things they ask for are your “papers” apply for a job you have to show your “papers”.

As far as the whole raciest thing, is it raciest to ask for a driver’s license, and if the person doesn’t have one, is it raciest to find out who they are and if they are in the country illegally? If you get arrested is it raciest to find out who they are? Just walking down the street won’t get you stopped.

2010-05-02T10:26:47Z

To italianstalian

I know the reasons to immigrate, my grandmother come over when she was 18, she traveled ALONE with less than $50 in her pocket. Yes she had a sponsor who guaranteed that she would NEVER be a burden on society; she couldn’t apply for welfare or relief.

And I know poverty, but I worked nights and took classes in the mornings so I could better myself and I did it legally. Many of my friends took the easy way selling drugs, they were undocumented pharmacists. You can better yourself without breaking the law.

And the citizens of the US say that are laws are just. I want people who will follow the laws that we have, I welcome immigrants who followed the rules, who want to better themselves. What I don’t want are people who have PROVEN they won’t follow our laws.

Just Saying2010-05-02T10:17:01Z

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Exactly, if you are questioned about your immigration status you will have to answer and if you say an American citizen, they have to accept that, unless, there is reason to believe that you are lying which might include, no driver's license, no ss card and even then, knowing the risks that are involved in falsely persecuting a person they will more than likely run some kind of quick check in the system and if you have a warrant for deportation or etc., well, you will be hauled in, if they are not 100% sure, they more than likely will take down your information put it in the system and do some kind of deep back ground check and then, after that if you are somehow pulled over for example speeding, they will already have your status and from there, well, if you are unable to produce documents then comes the next step.

People are making such ridiculous assumptions, like they are going to have a caravan of buses and start combing through the neighborhoods and kicking down doors and loading up the buses if you look Mexican. If this is what they wanted to do, they did not need Arizona laws to do it, they could have simply went to any latino night club or grocery store called tiendas and start loading buses.

The law was passed as a trigger to get the congress to move forward on the immigration issue and it will move forward now, every other issue that the senate was scheduled to address will be bumped back and immigration pushed to the top of the list. Next, these people should really just sit back and wait for their amnesty, it is coming, just like the healthcare bill was passed against the will of the people, so too, will this issue it does not matter what I think, what you think or anyone of us out here think, the politicians have already decided and they are going to pass it, it doesn't matter who you vote in, it is all a game, good cop, bad cop type of deal with the Republicans and Democrats, 2 party system is a 1 party system.

Another thing, I would be willing to bet that most of the crime & kidnapping in the Phoenix area is actually done by citizens, they may be of Mexican decent, couldn't say for sure, but many of the holding houses and etc. and coyotes are actually citizens, not illegals taking more illegals across and once they get here living in holding houses by 100% illegals running the whole thing. So, those who think crime is going to suddenly drop because illegals are gone, think again.

The border, well, there is a war going on. It has not been officially declared as such, but it is a war and everyday passing the death toll climbs higher and higher, don't expect the American government to do anything about it, it is too much corruption involved, drug money, human smuggling money, etc.

rosen2016-10-04T05:40:53Z

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Citizen Kane2010-05-02T09:31:41Z

Absolutely nothing! However, I wish they had some sort of electronic system, where each person who is here legally has a form of ID that proves that they did it the right way, and a police officer would just have to scan it to get the green light or red light. It would totally expedite the process and wouldn't cause more than a few minutes of hassling, because I can empathize with people who are here legally and would end up going through a more lengthy process just to prove it.

Anonymous2010-05-02T12:49:15Z

with so many illegally being here, I feel it should be mandatory to check. While some argue human rights being violated, well I'm sorry but when you border jump, steal money from hard working people and run away to your home country, or avoid the law of being here legally, you have no rights in this country, it's not your country. Just like when illegals got free money and drivers licenses from Bank of America and the DMV. WTF?! they aren't legal citizens why should they get to drive and get our money? I agree with you 200%

Anonymous2010-05-02T09:31:33Z

I feel the same way with the parents that I do with Americans that gave them the motivation to come here, don`t put me in the position to tell these nice people they cannot stay. Americans are going to have to take some responsibility for hiring them.

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