How many closet liberals will come out when the new draft goes into effect?

This one is especially scary because it may just have a chance to make it out of committee. Recruitment and retention fell short this year of 38,000 troops and that is WITH scraping the bottom of the barrel, allowing an 18 score on the ASVAB and allowing Downe's syndrome and autistic soldiers in the ranks.

Definitely not the same army I was in, LOL.

Raybuckdave,

That's not exactly true. Perhaps you should look up what "stop loss" means. I know I didn't spend 18 extra months in the Army with another spin down-range without a contract for my health and good looks.

JRS, a few details. First, the recruiting for 2005 FOR THE WHOLE MILITARY was indeed 38,000 short (for the Army it was 7000, and that is allowing 22 on the ASVAB). If you will look at the numbers you will notice that they have lowered the bar on recruiting goals for this year, and when you count the fact that every year the first months see many deferments from the previous year when they continuously lower the standards, I still stand by the recruiting shortfall remark. Add to this the fact that discharges for standard things like drugs, overweight, school and PT failure are no longer fast outs, if at all.

As well, when you look up a bill, you need to include HR, as in "HR4752" typing in just the number ("4752") won't turn up anything, but you probably already knew that.

And yes, in a volunteer army, when I make a contract or re-enlist for X amount of time, I expect to serve for X amount of time, no more than this and I gave no less than 100% of myself for this.

And yes, it is incredible what people will make themselves not see when getting to that magic 20 is all that matters. Obeying without questioning is not the mark of a good American or patriot.