The 12 apostles and the 12 thrones (Matthew 19:28)?

good question, John the Baptist?

Well, It says "you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel." There is the conditional "who have followed me" there so, obviously he is not including Judas. Also Acts 1:20-26 says that they needed to replace Judas with someone who had "been with us the whole time the Lord Jesus went in and out among us". Matthias, although not named previously, had been a follower of Jesus from the time of Jesus' baptism by John the Baptist so he is no "Johnny Come Lately". I would presume that, since he assumed the role of apostle and received all the powers, rights, and privileges that went with that title, he would be occupying the 12th throne. Also, they prayed and asked God to show them which one of the two proposed men would fill the position, so the assumption is that God is really the one who picked Matthias.

The only other person who would be a logical candidate would be Paul, formally Saul, who wrote most of the New Testament.

no, it does not contain judas. because Jesus even as He washed their ft stated you're sparkling... yet not all of you. earlier to the shape He hinted to them, howdy i recognize a traitor is close to me. the 12 apostles are those mutually with matthias or whoever it became that replaced judas. and be careful, Jesus isn't actually asserting there are twelve thrones in heaven reserved for the 12 apostles. interior the Bible the variety 12 exhibits judgment. 12 prophets interior the old testomony, 12 appointed followers interior the hot. they are the 24 elders seated around the throne of God interior the e book of Revelation. it truly is not concerning purely 12 people, yet those who've entered into judgement. they have been born back and submit to the concepts of Christ. it truly is why they are ruling and reigning and judging with Him.

He was telling the apostles that they could earn a great reward. In a later verse he says the everyone would receive a hundred fold of all they sacrificed, and eternal life.

It's not just about the apostles, it's about all who would follow Christ. Eternal life is the type of life the Father lives. He has given us the ability to be sons, and if sons, heirs of all He has. Who will sit on the 12th throne? You can.

Mat_19:28

Verily I say unto you - Jesus in this verse declares the reward which they would have.

They were not to look for it now, but in a future period.

That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration - This word occurs but once elsewhere in the New Testament, Tit_3:5. It literally means a new birth, or being born again. Applied to man, it denotes the great change when the heart is renewed, or when the sinner begins to be a Christian. This is its meaning, clearly, in the passage referred to in Titus; but this meaning cannot be applied here. Christ was not born again, and in no proper sense could it be said that they had followed him in the new birth; but the word also means any great change, or a restoration of things to a former state or to a better state. In this sense it is probably used here. It refers to that great revolution - that restoration of order in the universe - that universal new birth which will occur when the dead shall rise, and all human things shall be changed, and a new order of things shall start up out of the ruins of the old, when the Son of man shall come to judgment. The passage, then, should be read, “Ye which have followed me shall, as a reward in the great day of the resurrection of the dead, and of forming the new and eternal order of things - the day of judgment, the regeneration - be signally honored and blessed.

When the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory - That is, to judge the world. “Throne of glory” means glorious throne or a splendid throne. It is not to be taken literally, but is used to denote his character as a king and judge, and to signify the great dignity and majesty which will be displayed by him. See Mat_24:30; Mat_26:64; Act_1:11; Act_17:31.

Sit upon twelve thrones - This is figurative. To sit on a throne denotes power and honor, and means here that they would be distinguished above others, and be more highly honored and rewarded.

Judging the twelve tribes of Israel - Jesus will be the Judge of quick and dead. He only is qualified for it, and the Father hath given all judgment to the Son, Joh_5:22. To be a judge denotes rank, authority, power. The ancient judges of Israel were people of distinguished courage, patriotism, honor, and valor. Hence, the word comes to denote not so much an actual exercise of the power of passing judgment, as the honor attached to the office; and as earthly kings have those around them dignified with honors and office - counselors and judges, so Christ says that his apostles will occupy the same relative station in the great day. They will be honored by him, and by all, as apostles, as having, in the face of persecution, left all; as having laid the foundations of his church, and endured all the persecutions of the world.

The twelve tribes of Israel - This was the number of the ancient tribes. By this name the people of God were denoted. By this name Jesus here denotes his redeemed people. See also Jam_1:1, where Christians are called the twelve tribes. Here it means also, not the Jews, not the world, not the wicked, not that the apostles are to pronounce sentence on the enemies of God, but the people of God, the redeemed. Among them Jesus says his apostles will be honored in the day of judgment, as earthly kings place in posts of office and honor those who have signally served them.

Not to bust your little bubble but I think it will be Judas.

And no it is NOT because of the so called book of Judas which was written about 300AD

I think that what Judas was doing was to force Jesus's hand. Get him to take the throne by force of power! To set himself up as King and kick the Romans out of Judea.

Judas knew Jesus was the son of God, and could not see that it was not the will of God to Set Christ up as king.

Now the bible states, Judas hung himself and his belly opened and his guts fell out.

That smacks of a Texas suicide: ( Man found in cell, hanging from the ceiling, from strips of sheets, hands tied behind his back, shot in the back of his head twice, gun found under his pillow, was said the man just wanted to die!)

Why does Judas get such a bad rap? In order for Jesus to die for your sins, wouldn't someone have to turn him in?

I seriously don't understand this.

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Damn, babysisterchrissy beat me to it. But I'd still like an explination about the whole Judas thing.

I don't know, but I prefer to think of Paul (formerly Saul) as the 12th disciple. The Eleven chose the 12th according to man's way - pray and draw lots... But, after the stoning of Stephen, Paul showed up and things were never, ever quite the same...

Mathew is one of my favourite books in the bible and since you are serious....I think what Jesus meant was that the future generation will understand more abt the issues he speaks and answers will unfold when people start paying attention to their inner self....your conscience.....the super powerful sense that we are all born with and what we learn to develope when we are guided by the law of our creator. Hope this helps some?

Judas was replaced by Mattias (or is his name spelled Matthias(?)). So I am thinking the throne is for him or St. Paul.

why does everyone have to be down on Judas. Christ HAD to die for us!! Judas didn't do anything evil! Same thing with Eve. We had to have the knowledge of good and evil to progress!!