Which plane is better or can win in a fight?

The Mig-15. The Sabre I think only had a better targeting system. But other than that, the Mig dominated in all other categories.

Oh, and for those who quote the flight kills during the Korean war, Russian pilots who fought under the guise of Koreans had a reported 2 to 1 kill ratio. The only reason why we killed so many during the Korean war was because we were flying against SCRUBS. Pilot skill does matter.

The equivalent would be if I gave a person the F-15 who just learned how to fly, vrs a person who flew the F-16 for 4 years and graduated out of the flight academy, who would win? While the F-15 is a better jet (you can substitute it with the tomcat), the F-16 pilot knows flight combat such as the scissor, six rules of combat, fighting in a turning war, etc.

The F-86 Sabre had the best firepower and the highest kill ratio

of MIG-15s during the Korean War and you had better check your facts before putting them in the form of a question!!!!!!!!!

Do a Yahoo Search on the F-86 verus the MIG-15 and you'll get

a little bit more intelligent on which plane was the best and the F-86 wins hands down!!!!!!!!!!

I think all of you have failed to realize that the MiG-15 was a soviet copy of the Sabre. Hell, look at them. This is no coincidence. The soviets stole the design, literally; the specks and plans. The pilots were great, but not quite as good as our boys.

The only thing the soviets were unable to get was the Sabre's targeting systems. (US has always dominated in targeting system, especially present day) This explains how the Sabre had such an impressive kill ratio over the soviets.

Don't forget that soviet pilots and American pilots never meet in open air combat. American pilots fought KOREAN pilots hastily trained in soviet plains.

The Mig didn't have more firepower! They had more damaging firepower! The later F86 were superior to Mig 15's, which were flown by Russian pilots!

The MiG could fly higher, 50,000 vs. 42,000 feet, offering a distinct advantage at the start of combat. In level flight, their maximum speeds were comparable - about 660 MPH.. The MiG could climb better, the Sabre was more maneuverable and could dive better. For weapons, it carried two 23mm and one 37mm cannon, compared to the Sabre's six .50 caliber machine guns. The American weapons, while not packing as much of a punch, carried many more rounds and were aimed with a superior gunsight. Maintenance of the Sabre was a headache and a large fraction of the UN air strength was "in the shop" at any time.

By early 1951, the battle lines hardened and didn't change too much for the rest of the conflict. In April, MacArthur was sacked. Throughout the summer and early fall of 1951, the outnumbered Sabres (44 at one point) of the 4th FIW continued to seek battle with the 500+ MiGs near the Yalu. Jabara, Becker, and Gibson became the first Sabre aces. Following Col. Thyng's famous message to the Pentagon, the 51st FIW reinforced the beleaguered 4th in December 1951. For the next year and a half, the dual continued, in generally the same fashion. New, improved models of the F-86 appeared: the 'E' in early 1952 and the 'F', with its hard wing, in August. These later Sabres gave the UN pilots an increasing edge over the Communist MiG-15s.

Major George Davis, the leading MiG-killer at the time with 14 claims, was lost in action in February, 1952, on a mission that won him the Congressional Medal of Honor, the only Sabre pilot to earn the nation's highest military decoration. In April, Iven (sic) Kincheloe became the 10th ace and in September Robbie Risner became the 20th. During 1952, some pilots were flying unauthorized 'Maple Special' missions, designed to lure MiGs into dogfights and then pursue them across the Yalu, where some were shot down.

In March of 1953, Major George Jones became the 30th American ace of the Korean war. By this time peace talks were starting, and when Ed Heller was shot down on the wrong side of the Yalu it created quite a furor. Heller, along with Fischer, Mahurin. and Bettinger became a POW; three other Korean aces (Risner, Low, & Kasler) later became POWs in Vietnam. In July, 1953, just days before the armistice, Guy Bordelon, flying a F4U-5N, became the 40th and final Korean ace. He was the only US Navy ace and the only propeller ace.

Claims

The numbers shown above, and used throughout, are claims, and are almost certainly in excess of the actual number of MiGs downed. During the war the USAF pilots claimed over 800 enemy planes. Postwar research revised that figure downward to 379, which closely matches the admitted Russian losses of 345. The Air Force has not disclosed, perhaps does not fully know, which pilot claims to revise, so the contemporary numbers stand, although, as in all claims for aerial victories, the claims exceed the other side's documented losses.

I think youve been smoking alittle too much something or other. The kill ratio of F-86 to MIG 15 was 7 to 1, Mmmmm thats alot of burning holes in the ground with MIG 15's in it LOL

Update. The Soviets have 335 mig15's shot down by the F-86, American numbers are 224 F-86's where shot down by Mig15's.

There were 78 F-86es lost in the Korea conflict, and 792 Mig-15s shot down. Does that answer your question???

i think its the mig-15... i guess the f-86 sabre is a heavier fighting jet. . it wont match the maneuvre of a mig 15 if u ask me... even if the f86 have more weapons..

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