Sinner or Saint?

English does complicate things. It's always a good idea to find a pastor or teacher that explores ancient culture and can put things into their proper context.

I've never heard "to miss the mark and not share in the prize." I've often found that Jesus wasn't all that concerned with getting us into Heaven after accepting Him. He did seem very concerned with us learning to bring Heaven here, now once we're saved.

We're all sinners - before and after recieving grace. The difference is in acknowledging it or not, accepting the grace or doing things our own way.

I think that all people are sinners except JESUS. HE is the only one who never sinned and the only one able to forgive sins. As far as being called a sinner or a saint, the New Testiment refers to all those who have the Spirit dwelling within them as saints(Rom 8:27). The saints are put into the same catagory as prophets and apostles in Revelation, so I think that the term "saints" refers to those who are set apart by GOD for some special purpose. On the other hand, virtually anyone can be called a sinner because we were all born with the nature to sin. (Think about it, no one had to teach you how to disobey your parents when you were little.) But there is forgivness available for sin. JESUS died as a sacrifice for sins. If we will confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in our heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved (Rom 10:9). Also, repent then and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out (Acts 3:19). Although Christians are forgiven, they are not perfect. God understands that; in 1John 1:9, John writes to the believers (5:13) "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness." So, although Christians are forgiven, we can still be sinners, thus the term can be correctly used to describe us also.

I know that I am not smart, but I hope this helped clear up something.

What defines a Christian is the trust they have in God for the promise of His Son; the belief that the Son rose from the dead, and has for us the promise that we also will rise being covered by His sacrifice that was acceptable to God.

As the lamb in the Old Testament was an acceptable sacrifice for the firstborn 'donkey, it does not change the stubborness and the considered uncleanness, the nature of the animal is still the same; the 'donkey' is still a 'donkey.'

As Paul said that we are at war with our members; we still have the sinful nature in us, yet we also have the life giving Spirit of God, the same one who raised Christ from the dead, and we are something new on the Earth, a new creation in Christ Jesus.

So yes, I call myself a sinner. Yet the eternal part of me is washed clean. In that I have two natures, one fleshly and the other spiritual. The spiritual looks to God while the flesh looks to live for itself. We have both.

As far as being a saint or sinner, in the context of what I just attempted to communicate, I would say tht Christians are both, and do themselves no good service by denying either one.

A Christian, is both saint and sinner.

This is to do with modesty. Of course, Christians know that their sins are forgiven when they confess their faith in Jesus as Lord and Saviour. However, as humans, we are not able to keep from sinning. When that happens we are advised to go to God who will forever ready to forgive us that is the faith that Christians follow. The Christians must know they could not possibly keep himself holy or godly all the time. They would depend on the Holy Spirit for help. This is what many other faiths find objectionable in that when a Christian asks God's forgiven of any sins committed after confession of faith, he claims he has received that forgiveness as promised by the word of God in the scriptures.

Once we accept Jesus as stated in John 3:16 we have the right to become the children of God. They can be considered as saints. But it is also not wrong when we refer ourselves as sinners. This is because of the situation explained above.

So the Christians are considered saints by the grace of God. We can do nothing without Christ and the Holy Spirit.

Therefore, in your heart you can certainly hold to the fact that you are a saint while when speaking to non-believers we are sinners who need the grace and salvation of God.

Now, knowing that we are children of God, many or all Christians will find difficulty to address themselves as god even spelt in small g. May I know do we not call a baby of monkey or known as monkey, 'monkey' and never something else. So, left alone saints or sinners. do you dare to call yourself god in front of others. You will certainly say you are a child of God. How modest.

well we have all fallen short of the mark. Christians are to be christ-like, but never achieve perfection. All believers are saints, because we believe and sinners because we haven't mastered the trails of life. It also has alot to do with whom you fellowship with. Some churches address the congregation as "saints". I have never heard someone address them as "sinners". They may say it as a fact, in a statement, like, " we are all sinners and have fallen short of.....". I personally do not practice catholism, so I can't answer from that perspective.

I think there is a pretty common recognition that we all fall short of what we want to be occassionally.

So, we recognize that people, being people, do sin. When people say someone is "a sinner", they are only recognizing that they are truly human, just like all of us. It is a comment on that, not a comment on the person's eternal security.