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Is MORALITY determined by a personal relationship with Jesus Christ?

Does it matter that this reduces morality to individual piety?

Oops. Asked this question earlier with the word "faith" instead of "morality". Made no sense whatsoever.

Update:

Wow! Good answers!

Update 2:

Hi Contemplative,

You wrote: "Anyone who tries to earn a good relationship through service instead of through sensitive interaction is acting in vain." I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Could you explain a little further?

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    Not at all. the belief in Jesus Christ and morality are not mutually related, definitely not.

    For instance, the Dalai Lama has said that compassion and affection are human values independent of religion.

    You see, the belief of God doesn't have any pronounced effect on whether a person behaves morally or not.

    Morality comes from altruistic motivation, not from the fear of a supernatural being or punishments after death.

  • Morality is based on law. I believe morality is based on the tenets of Christianity, but it is on the ideology rather than my relational skills that my sense of morality is based.

    Through relationship, there is salvation, which is a different matter. While I strongly believe in personal responsibility and the need for adherence to moral code, salvation is not something I can earn by enough good behaviour.

    It's not that good behaviour is unimportant, it's just not the currency of love. It's not the ultimate purpose of relationship.

    Anyone who tries to earn a good relationship through service instead of through sensitive interaction is acting in vain. No one likes to have someone earn love. That comes with a sense of entitlement, which is contrary to love.

    Morality has a bearing on relationships, but it is not determined by it.

    Source(s): I just got your e-mail, but I'll post this here too: I'll try! ;o) Have you ever had someone do exactly what you asked, but it was in order to get something from you? It wasn't for the joy of seeing you happy, or because it was an expression of what they felt, but it was to manipulate you or because they would feel you were indebted to them in some way? Some people have a way of doing even good things in a way that others can't feel good about, and it's because they're trying to buy something (love or favor) that is not for sale. I think a good many Christians try to buy salvation in that way. They think service is a means of getting God to owe them. I don't think it works that way in our relationships with each other and I don't think it works with God, either. I don't think that desire (for someone to owe us good) is always a wretchedly evil intention. Some people don't trust that anyone would simply love them without incentive. So they give in order to get. But if you have to earn your love, you never really feel loved. That's not to say that we never give in relationships. It's just that instead of giving to get, we have to be sensitive to what other people actually want and need from us. Sometimes what they need is not what we feel comfortable giving. Sometimes we can't be sure that they will reciprocate our giving. Well, it's taken me all those words to get to the gist of it - true love doesn't give in order to receive. Now why didn't I just say that in the first place? ;o)
  • 1 decade ago

    There are two types of morality personal and social. Personal morality is your values, your rights and wrongs. Societal are generally defined by law and in some areas religion. Slavery was considered morally correct until a few went against the social morals.

    As long as man has free will, it will be unlikely that personal and social morals will mesh completely - but that isn't always a bad thing.

  • BDOLE
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    It is my belief that morality can only be derived from one's own free will. Choosing to act as one does is independent of faith, although the behaviors which are suggested and shown by Jesus are usually considered very moral.

    However, I have seen deeply religious people engage in usury without remorse, I have seen the truly faithful who try constantly to live by the words of Jesus fail in moral situations where less faithful men tread easily.

    One does not need to have faith in Jesus to be moral, and having faith in Jesus does not make one moral. However, one who listens to his words may find strong moral guidance regardless of faith, although said faith can reinforce said guidance.

    However, it could easily be said that anyone who truly believes in Jesus, strives for a strong relationship, and listens to his words will generally act in a moral fashion, at least so far in a similar (yet not identical) fashion as to that which Jesus himself lived.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Absolutely not! True morality has nothing whatsoever to do with following any one faith over any other. It also has nothing to do with following certain rules. True morality is strictly about things like Love, Kindness, Compassion, Sharing, Empathy, Generosity, Unity, the understanding that there is enough for everyone, and that God has always intended for everyone to have their needs met, no matter what, and the understanding that we are all one...with each other and with God...LITERALLY! Separation and scarcity are only illusions. *sm*

  • 1 decade ago

    morality is ever changing into what society wants to make it. Kind of like voting for a president. Not all agree but versions are out there and conformity to who's values is the proper guideline.

  • 1 decade ago

    No. I have no relationship with Jesus Christ, him being a dead man and all, but I have morals. Nobody needs a book to tell you not to kill or steal or lie. Those are just -human- morals, not Christian ones.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Absolutely not. There are those who have no relationship with any church, yet who act in a manner which should be lauded by the best that humanity has to offer.

    There are those who outwardly proclaim adherence to a religion (none can know their hearts, of course) but who do stunningly immoral things.

  • 1 decade ago

    Christian morality depends on a relationship with Jesus. Human morality doesn't. Some Christians will argue that without Jesus, or their god, that there would be no morality at all. It seems that God only allows free will among those who have freely chosen Him, but imposes his will to impart order on the world on those who do not believe in Him.

    It's a strange, strange god they have. If you do what he wants, you're free to do as you will. If you choose him, you've chosen freely, but if you don't choose him, he imposes his morality on you, but doesn't give you the benefit of choosing to believe in him.

    Strange.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Not only "not determined by", but it's simply not a factor for atheists. Our morality derives from upbringing, law, school, conscience, convention, decency, ethic, goodness, honesty, honor, integrity, moral code, natural law, nature, practice, principles, standards, values, etc.

    “Morality does not depend on religion.” -- John Ruskin

    “The death of dogma is the birth of morality.” -- Immanuel Kant

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