Atheists, with all due respect, have you ever considered mathematical probability?

dont bring up the laws of thermodynamics because you will just sound ignorant. because any scientist will tell you that the laws of thermodynamics are not broken with the theory of evolution or the big bang theory. the way you think of chaos and order are completely different than entropy. these laws, rather, explain the dispersion and use of energy. and to comment on the superior intelligent design you cannot calculate probability on unknown factors. its like having a lottery with infinite numbers, there is no way to calculate that you would draw a number 3 from that. same as religious theory.

This is not an answerable question. To consider the mathematical probabilities of something, one must understand some basic things about the assumptions.

1. Chaos evolving into order....one must first understand how many attempts have been made (the denominator), and also how many success there have been (the numerator). Since you neither know the denominator, nor the numerator, the consideration is useless. One cannot calculate the probability of something occuring without knowing how many attempts have been made, and how many sides has the dice.

2. A superior intelligence designing the universe we live in. Again, one must first understand if there is a superior intelligence that has designed anything, let alone the universe in which we live. If there is no precedent, there can be no assumption for success.

I Realize that Many Things Are Very Improbable, I Used to ask Myself, "How Probable is it that a Rain Drop, From a Particular Cloud Will Land On My Right Big Toe?", Many Things Are Astoundingly Improbable, they Become Much More Probable, to Have a Particular Outcome, if an Experiment is Carried out Multiple Times. A Single Iteration is Highly Improbable, but Still Might Happen, Like Winning the Lottery, There Are Massive Improbabilities Happening All the Time, but they Happen, they are Commonplace. This is a Question of Statistical Mechanics.

and what do base this law of probability upon ...;the answer that suits you best ? with due respect what is the probability of god striking me down with lightning? Or of my neighbor rising from the dead ? Or the probability of finding a talking snake , walking on water , turning tater into wine or creating a universe from nothing ? the natural affinities of the materials in the universe have just a probability of forming order but an imperative proclivity for what we call order . that's is discounting the unusual probability that must take into account infinity as a top governing factor which makes the mathematics unfathomable to we mere regular people.

I'll have to stick with your first option it's still evidently going in that direction still to this day we are progressing in an ever increasingly orderly manner.

Yes, except for the god part, it is called contemplation, meditation and the appreciation of all things beautiful atheist Your universe is inside of you So much joy and amazement abounds A solitary world where you rule supreme And no one may ever enter this domain Only you can feel a kiss on your lips Or a breeze's caress on your skin The multi-colored windows of your soul Are your exclusive panorama Revel in your heartbeat's rhythm Drink in air like fine wine Give your eager fingertips A feast of sensuous perceptions Feel the wonder of the world around you Experience the awe of living This is your magic carpet ride Savor the exquisite flavor Of this sacrosanct gift of life ~ AuroraDawn

I don't know how to calculate such odds.

I also don't know how to calculate the odds that a bird flu virus and a human flu virus could mix their DNA in such a way as to make a viable new virus that is very deadly to humans. In 1918, it happened, crreating the Spanish flu epidemic that killed over 1% of the human race. It is expected to happen again with the new avian flu.

Imagine, a virus so small that we can't see it without a microscope, but it can kill us. Does this sound like the work of an intelegence??? Sounds kinda goofy to me. Maybe we should have the theory of Goofy Design???

Order can arise out of chaos with the addition of energy.

Example: A box of parts arrives at your house. You supply energy in the form of physical labor and two hours later, voila, you've created a bicycle (a more ordered assemblage.)

If a superior intelligence designed our universe (which I doubt highly), it is either extremely petty, or extremely callous.

What "chaos"?

If you accept that the universe came to together as a result of well defined laws of physics, then you do no have chaos but rather inevitability.

Chaos evolving into Order

1- That happens all the time. The Earth is covered with crystals and that is just one example. Go make rock candy and watch it for yourself.

2- There is no evidence that happened. So the odds are incredibly low.