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When churches keep on Pastors or ministers caught in Sin, whose is responsible for the second time it occurs?
Keetonsmom -- the question above has nothing to do with forgiveness or the lack thereof. The question above has to do with responsibility and qualification.
God forgives a wayward Pastor for his sin, but it does not make the Pastor qualified again. Once he loses his qualification, then he is done. Forgiven, but removed from the office of the Pastor forever.
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- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
It depends on the church's government structure. Some churches follow an episcopal form of government, where you have a hierarchy of bishops presiding over various churches. Other churches have a presbyterian form of government, where a body of elders are in charge. Lastly, there is the congregational form of government, where the entire membership is responsible.
The Bible is rather clear about an elder, pastor, etc., being caught in sin. "Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses. Those who sin are to be rebuked publicly, so that the others may take warning..." (I Timothy 5:19-20)
And
"If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector." (Matthew 18:15-17)
The requirements for an elder are listed in letters to Timothy and Titus. Should an existing elder disqualify himself from office, based on those standards, and he is allowed to stay on, the person(s) who allowed him to stay are culpable as the elder, when a second time occurs.
- 1 decade ago
First of all as a Christian we should forgive one another of sins as Christ forgives us of our sins. When looking at the word forgive in its original context it actually has a closer meaning to forget then to forgive. Therefore, if a church keeps a minister that is caught in Sin they should forgive this minister. Unless the sin that the minister is caught in is something that the church is making him to do then the only person responsible for his sin is himself. An example from the Bible would be when Jesus says that the parents are not responsible for the sins of the child.
- arikinderLv 61 decade ago
The congregation is responsible. A congregation has a duty to make sure their Pastor is properly representing the body of Christ. Everyone makes mistakes, including Pastors but when that mistake becomes habitual, action needs to be taken.
Source(s): http://www.chesedoutreach.org/ - scassoLv 44 years ago
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- Anonymous1 decade ago
The pastor is responsible for whatever s/he does, however many times s/he may do it.
If a pastor has harmed someone, and her/his congregation or supervisor provides her/him an opportunity to do so again, the congregation or supervisor bears responsibility for the 2nd occurance of harm.
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- ?Lv 61 decade ago
Jesus said, seventy times seven.
Jesus told Mary Magdalen, Where are the men who condemn you? Sin no more.
However, people who have sinned greatly need to be removed from the area where the temptations occurred! I agree with you absolutely.
Yet, Jesus knew of Judas' deeds and chose him as one of His 12 Apostles. Judas greatest sin was the sin of despair, that Jesus would never forgive him, thus Judas died in his guilt.
Peter denied Jesus directly and openly, worse than Judas. But Peter knew that Jesus would forgive him even in his open denial of Truth. Peter possessed the Faith, Hope and Love of Jesus Christ. This relationship saved Peter.
Yet, Jesus did teach us to forgive seventy times seventy times. (Always, again, and again.) His mercy endures forever.
- James OLv 71 decade ago
everybody who does nothing, especially those to whom the pastor gives account like bishops and other local,regional,national and international bodies of discernment and discipline.
- Chantal GLv 61 decade ago
The clergy member who did it and the church hierarchy that kept him or her on.
Source(s): Catholic who works in social services - Anonymous1 decade ago
i don't think it's any of their business.