Thinking about writing letter to college campuses about CCW?

I would have to agree with your enthusiasm. As a member of the law enforcement world, it does kind of scare me with the thought of the increase of weapons in the school areas. However, I am reasured with the idea that if the situation does arise, I would have the increased possiblilty of someone watching my back with a weapon compared to a pen or pencil.

I work in a county that houses one of the state's largest universities and have had our fair share of gun/student scares. I am a firm believer in the 2nd ammendment and the sheep/sheep dog theory. I think that those who are ready have a less likely chance of getting hurt. If you go with the flow and don't expect the unexpected, you will fall short.

Try and reference this theory (Sheep/Sheepdog/Wolf):

Most of the people in our society are sheep. They are kind, gentle, productive creatures who can only hurt one another by accident. This is true. Remember, the murder rate is six per 100,000 per year, and the aggravated assault rate is four per 1,000 per year. What this means is that the vast majority of Americans are not inclined to hurt one another. Some estimates say that two million Americans are victims of violent crimes every year, a tragic, staggering number, perhaps an all-time record rate of violent crime. But there are almost 300 million Americans, which means that the odds of being a victim of violent crime is considerably less than one in a hundred on any given year. Furthermore, since many violent crimes are committed by repeat offenders, the actual number of violent citizens is considerably less than two million.

I mean nothing negative by calling them sheep. To me it is like the pretty, blue robin's egg. Inside it is soft and gooey but someday it will grow into something wonderful. But the egg cannot survive without its hard blue shell. Police officers, soldiers, and other warriors are like that shell, and someday the civilization they protect will grow into something wonderful.? For now, though, they need warriors to protect them from the predators.

Then there are the wolves, and the wolves feed on the sheep without mercy. Do you believe there are wolves out there who will feed on the flock without mercy? You better believe it. There are evil men in this world and they are capable of evil deeds. The moment you forget that or pretend it is not so, you become a sheep. There is no safety in denial.

Then there are sheepdogs, and I'm a sheepdog. I live to protect the flock and confront the wolf.

If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen, a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath, a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? What do you have then? A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero's path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed

The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, can not and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheep dog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.

Still, the sheepdog disturbs the sheep. He is a constant reminder that there are wolves in the land. They would prefer that he didn't tell them where to go, or give them traffic tickets, or stand at the ready in our airports in camouflage fatigues holding an M-16. The sheep would much rather have the sheepdog cash in his fangs, spray paint himself white, and go, "Baa."

Until the wolf shows up. Then the entire flock tries desperately to hide behind one lonely sheepdog.

I was with a group of police officers in Texas, and during the break, one officer asked his friend if he carried his weapon in church. The other cop replied, "I will never be caught without my gun in church." I asked why he felt so strongly about this, and he told me about a cop he knew who was at a church massacre in Ft. Worth, Texas in 1999. In that incident, a mentally deranged individual came into the church and opened fire, gunning down fourteen people. He said that officer believed he could have saved every life that day if he had been carrying his gun. His own son was shot, and all he could do was throw himself on the boy's body and wait to die. That cop looked me in the eye and said, "Do you have any idea how hard it would be to live with yourself after that?"

Some individuals would be horrified if they knew this police officer was carrying a weapon in church. They might call him paranoid and would probably scorn him. Yet these same individuals would be enraged and would call for "heads to roll" if they found out that the airbags in their cars were defective, or that the fire extinguisher and fire sprinklers in their kids' school did not work. They can accept the fact that fires and traffic accidents can happen and that there must be safeguards against them.

Their only response to the wolf, though, is denial, and all too often their response to the sheepdog is scorn and disdain. But the sheepdog quietly asks himself, "Do you have and idea how hard it would be to live with yourself if your loved ones attacked and killed, and you had to stand there helplessly because you were unprepared for that day?"

This business of being a sheep or a sheep dog is not a yes-no dichotomy. It is not an all-or-nothing, either-or choice. It is a matter of degrees, a continuum. On one end is an abject, head-in-the-sand-sheep and on the other end is the ultimate warrior. Few people exist completely on one end or the other. Most of us live somewhere in between. Since 9-11 almost everyone in America took a step up that continuum, away from denial. The sheep took a few steps toward accepting and appreciating their warriors, and the warriors started taking their job more seriously. The degree to which you move up that continuum, away from sheephood and denial, is the degree to which you and your loved ones will survive, physically and psychologically at your moment of truth.

I am totally with you. The Right to defend our own lives is the highest of all Rights. To be artificially prevented from defending ourselves is... something only an ENEMY would do to us! In the mid-1990s, Leftists pushed the idea that making schools into 'gun free zones' was for the protection of the children. They claimed that if it would "save even one child's life" it was only common sense. But, notice that AFTER that law was passed, we got Columbine, Santee, Virginia Tech and a bunch of other massacres! In one case, a couple of students were able to subdue a gunman on campus - by getting their own guns and giving him an ultimatum. THAT is the main benefit of CCW - that someone on the scene can immediately stop the attack!

In my state, the "Concealed Carry Permit" does not allow one to carry their weapon into any location that is considered an educational facility....This includes hospitals that are designated "Schools of Medicine", and any facility that is designated "public education"....This includes K-1 through University......It may vary by state, but many states have reciprocal agreements, and the criteria for the permit must match the requirements of the reciprocating states.....

You have an uphill battle in front of you. Since Federal Law requires that you be 18 to purchase rifles and Shotguns and a minimum of (21 years old to buy handguns)..Most states as a result require you to be 21 years of age or older to get a Concealed Weapons Permit. That's anywhere, not just college campuses.....After the Virginia Tech massacre, this is being discussed but I just don't see conservative colleges allowing this to happen...Look at what happened a few weeks ago with the 11th grader (Not sure what state but it was on the news). She was suspended from her high school indefinately because she had two boxes of 12 gauge Trap loads in her car parked on the school parking lot..Despite the fact she is a State Trap Champion, that fact didn't matter. The school board held it's ground and the case is going to court. My point is simple..If the state boards of education are going to uphold regulations to the point that someone is denied an education in high school, do you think they (Conservatives) are going to allow the arming of college students? I don't think so..I'm not crazy about the idea of a bunch of untrained people toting guns around a college campus ? I don't think so,even if they can qualify with a handgun or not.I wish you luck in your efforts though..........

It depends on the politics of the college.I highly agree.I'm going to college next year or the year after and I'm planning on keeping a 12 gauge in my car with some ammo just so I'm not a complete sitting duck.It might help to include some of the studies proving that areas with high CCW rates are less prone to violent crime.

most colleges are liberal biased and they won't hear of it....and considering they have a new crop of impressionable high school students every year....this will be an uphill battle...

and from what I see walking out of most high schools I wouldn't want them to have guns.... whatever the flavor of the month on mtv....what jeans to wear down your a**, how to wear your hat sideways,etc, etc...

you don't see the numbers of student memberships at the rod and gun clubs these days....not like the 70's /80's

those are the impressionable young responsible gun owners that need to be cultivated and encouraged, that's how the traditions are passed on....

arming college campuses won't work....

I support gun rights, but they all have their place.

A college campus isn't a place where a student should be carrying a concealed weapon.

The student carrying the concealed weapon could have a bad day and someone looks and him the wrong way and he could be the one who does the massacering instead of the one trying to prevent it. Or maybe they would just get drunk at a frat party and shoot for the fun of it.

Very few young people are mature enough to carry firearms in college life campus enviroment, its better left off campus. As you grow old you get more mellow and you can handle stuff better. At that age youre just begining to discover adulthood, its a crazy time for most kids in a college enviroment theyre better off not carrying concealed weapons.

The colleges should just work on having better security.

They should develop films for students on what to do during those situations. Like for example; if you start hearing shots outside the classroom, the best place to go is not to try to jump out the window, but right next to the door so when the assailant enters you can grab his gun or jump him from behind

It has always irritated me how the bleeding-heart libertards that run most colleges think nothing of stripping law-abiding citizens of their Second Amendment rights, just because they are on school property. . . . .

Not that I would expect to see it reported in the liberal media, but I have wondered whether any of the victims of the Va. Tech massacre were CWP holders, and whether there have been any wrongful death or injury lawsuits filed against the school & state because of these violations. . . . . .

I know I feel safer knowing that the guy sitting next to me doesn't have a gun than I would otherwise. I would have to go from the happy assumption that he is unarmed to the assumption that he is armed. Also, I'm not too sure about cross-fire, doesn't sound all that fun to me.

How far do you think your going to get in trying to win over ivory tower academics with political cartoons? Moreover, who would want to take a gun to class, even if they were allowed?! I don't think that anybody that feels the need to always carry a gun should be allowed to carry a gun. If they allowed concealed carry, would they issue bullet proof vests to all the students?