New residents and social security ?

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I was approached nearly a week ago and asked (by an undocumented woman from Mexico) the following: She would like to marry a man from the Dominican Republic. She is under the impression that she can get citizenship if she marries him, since he recently brought in his parents from the Dominican. She is late 40s, and, hopes to be a citizen in time to collect social security when she turns 65. I told her that she would have to go back to Mexico for the 10 year wait regardless of who she married, and, I asked her why she thought she should collect social security and if she was saving money for retirement. She is not, but, she owns her home with only a very small amount owing to the bank (under 20k). I am opposed to her using this man, lying, and, to her less than honorable intention with social security. I doubt I will ever see her again. I think she was offended by my remarks, but, would she be able to do this? She also mentioned going to the domincan and buying an ID to say she

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is Dominican and a marriage certificate from there showing her marriage to this guy. Please tell me that our system isn't so broken that she could actually get away with this???

tnfarmgirl · Accepted Answer

In order to be eligible for Social Security benefits she would have had to have  paid into the system herself with her own Social Security #.
She would be eligible for her husbands Social Secuirty payments upon his death.

Anonymous · Answer

I believe that if she marries him and he is an American Citizen or legal resident and has earned his  Social Security benefits and retires at his passing she would be eligibly for Social Security survivors benefits. I do not think that should be allowed ,  
I really do not know for sure ,I may be wrong on this.

My ex-wife that did not work outside of the home in our 20 year marriage, would have retained eligibility  on  my Social Security, if she did not remarry, Which I am glad she did.

youarewrongbobisright · Answer

She also would be eligible for a portion of her husbands benefits until he dies then she can get all of his.

It used to be commonly called the 50% spousal rule.  Now I think it's about 33%.

It's a scam.  But one that millions of Americans have done for years.  For those people who think they are entitlted I strongly disagree.  It is mostly used by the more afluent, as they are more likely to have only one working in the marriage.  They can then collect far more money from SS then their peers when both people work but the total salary is the same.

1. Husband only works - makes $80,000 yr.
2. Husband and wife work - make $40,000 each.

They pay the same amount into SS but example one makes from 33-50% more from SS.  Very unfair to working couples.

the d · Answer

I'mm not quite following you cauese a person form the domincan republic is not a u.s. citizen,

In order to get social security yo umust earn around atleast $4,000 per year in the U.S. for atleast 10 years and be a legal resident.

Anonymous · Answer

Not sure what SSC is? Normally, to get Social Security Title 2 benefits, you need only be a lawfully admitted alien to the US and meet all the eligibility requirements.

Anonymous · Answer

situations like that are already taxing the system in addition to the tax we as citizens put on it.  If she is counting on social security being solvent in 25 yrs at full benefit, she will be in for a rude awakening, as may we all be, myself included.  I am hoping SS is a supplement for my family, not relying on it for total retirement.

Dog Tricks · Answer

I certainly hope not. But who knows anymore?


Tis the season and don't forget the reason!

Anonymous · Answer

No, she was an illegal alien from mexico. And people wonder why we don't want these people as US citizens. Yuck!

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