Pagans/Witches: Is it true that anyone who spells Magick with a "k" on the end is a "fluffy"???

There is no reason for "magicke." That is being fluffy i.e. they are doing something for no better reason than it gains them attention and/or it looks cool.

Fluffy is generally determined by intent, not action. There are very un-fluffy people who spell it "magick." Those are people who have deliberate reason for spelling it in that manner. (Most often because they are specifically referring to Aleister Crowley's definition of magick, which can be considerably different from the magic someone is working when they talk of "candle magick".) However, there's also a lot of people who use that spelling for fluffy reasons: it just looks cool or different.

The fact that these teens have things on their desks that advertise what they are and constantly talk spells in public strongly suggests that this is a fashion statement and/or grad for attention, not a serious practice. And that's the essence of a fluffbunny.

Personally, I spell it "magic" unless I'm specifically discussing Crowley.

It depends on where I am using the word whether I spell it with a "k" or not. In open forums like this, I tend to use the "k" more so to distinguish between spellwork and stage magic/illusion (because I have seen people accuse witches of thinking that these stage type "tricks" are what we are referring to when we say magic.)

However, in Pagan/Wiccan forums, well, they tend to know what I'm talking about so the distinction isn't really necessary. I'm a first degree Priestess currently training for my second degree, so I wouldn't say I'm "fluffy" - nor would any of my mentors or my High Priestess.

I actually think I picked up the spelling with the "k" from Gypsy Ravish, High Priestess of the Salem, MA chapter of The Temple of Nine Wells - and she is a respected elder in the Salem Wiccan community. (She's also a singer/songwriter - some may be familiar with her CD "Enchantress", on which there is a song entitled "Magick".)

Yes, you will see a lot of people using the terms "fluffy" or "fluffy bunnies" about those who wear Wicca and/or witchcraft as a fashion statement.

Those that have maybe read one book, start wearing all black, get a bunch of piercings and/or tats, etc. and claim to be witches or Wiccans - I tend to call them "McWiccan" or "McWitch" - those that make it very obvious that they've just done the "drive through" version of learning about Wicca or witchcraft and then go yapping all over the place about it as if they are experts. I try not to be so judgemental - but over the years I have grown quite frustrated with such - because these are the types that are usually pretty vocal, and the general public can be led to believe that they are speaking for all Wiccans and witches...usually they tend to do us more harm than good, IMHO.

But simply because someone does or doesn't spell magic with a "k" when referring to the magic of the Craft - I don't automatically assume that person is "fluffy"...there's got to be more than that as far as signs of "fluffiness" for me. ;)

Absolutely not. Magick with a K at the end was the Crowleyan way, and Crowley may have been alot of things, but he was definately not fluffy. The K is added to differentiate between stage magic and energy magick. The K is also used by many Chaos magickians. Chaos Magickians are also anything but fluffy. In my own writing, I tend to use magic when writing of Witchcraft and Shamanic practices, but I add the K when I talk about Chaos Magick or Crowley.

.... and sometimes I flip between them for SEO purposes. *coughcough*

Spelling it with a Y (as in magyk, or magyck) could possibly be fluffy, however.

Your friend, however, appears to be in the Wiclet category. This is the word that we non-Wiccans (here in my neighborhood) secretly call Wiccans when we go to Pagan gatherings and are totally dominated by Wiccans who insist that this is the "right" way to do it and anybody who doesn't agree isn't a "real" witch or Pagan or is nothing more than a "fluffbunny" or whatever and totally intimidate us and make us feel unwelcome so that in self defense we are forced to come up with a derogatory name for them to make ourselves feel better. (It means Cliquish Witches.)

As has already been mentioned, there are some valid reasons to spell it magick. Those reasons are Crowley.

There has been a trend to spell it with the "k" and claim this is to distinguish real magic from stage magic (like Chris Angel or whoever is big these days, I'm a bit out of touch). I find the majority of authors making this claim write books that I call wall throwers.

Definition: A "Wall Thrower" is a book that contains information so bad or inaccurate that it makes me throw it against the wall in disgust.

Back to my point, yes, I generally think that most people who spell magic with a "k" are doing just because they have gotten their hands on some bad reading material. They may be fluffy.

Oh My Goodness!! Do you mean to tell me that after being a practicing witch for 41 years I am a Fluffy!?!?!.

I have always spelled it with a k to differentiate it from prestidigitation.

As far as it goes (in my eyes) it takes a lot more than how a word is spelled to separate the wheat from the chaff (so to speak), But it sounds to me like these little "witchlets" are probably just young ones seeking the attention that apparently being a witch gets them. Personally I do not hunger for attention, and most of the time the attention that one gets is generally very negative, and I hate negative vibes.

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I spell magick with a 'k'.... I'm anything but "fluffy." Anyone who can't get past Christian Era Duotheism, and think "everyone is" either in category A or Category B, is fluffy.... I have many gods, because all experiences in this world are more complex than "this or that."

Aleister Crowley, the "Wickedest Man in the World" added the "k" to magick, for Qabalistic reasons, but also to differentiate between it and magic: either Folk magic, not designed for spiritual development, or illusion magic, tricking people.

Magick: In Theory and in Practice is designed to help you find your true Will. Anything that helps you do this is Magick, whether Natural or "Supernatural." (nothing is supernatural)

The K was added at the end of magic by Crowley, who did it so that the word would fit his gematria. Since then unfortunately it has gained widespread use as a way to differientiate from "stage" magic. Which I personally find to be silly. But a person who does that to me isn't automatically fluffy, though it is one of the things that raises a red flag. I think the real reason the older woman called those girls fluffies was a combination of things...not just the k but the fact that from what you describe they seem to be the type who are treating being a Witch like it's a fad. They'll lose interest in a couple of years.

I think that your older friend is closer to the truth.

As Lab Girl said, there are good reasons to use a "k" in spelling the word. However, if the person doesn't know why it's spelled that way, they have no business doing so. I think that the alternative spelling came from Crowley but I could be wrong about that.

I don't have any reason to use numerology in my spellings so I don't use the alternative spelling. In general, the people that I talk to are intelligent enough to know what type of magic that I'm referring to by the context of the word in my posts/speech. If they aren't, then I don't need to be talking about magic with them.

I understand that many people spell it "Magick" and it doesn't bother me as long as they are informed enough to know why they do that. It does bother me when I see such intentional errors such as spelling it "Majik" or "Majick" because I don't know of any other reason to do that other than to gain attention.

LOL. Interesting. Many Witches prefer to use the "K" spelling to differentiate what we do from stage magic of the Criss Angel brand. Many, however, do call the former "fluffies" or "fluffy bunnies"; I assure you it has nothing to do with their spelling of magick. I say if they want to be "fluffy", let them. This religion does, after all, promote individuality and your choosing of how to practice it. However, if they have no clue of what they are talking about, I wish they wouldn't talk at all. Calling themselves "Witches" can make neophytes and cowans think badly of all Pagan practices.

I wouldn't say it is automatically a sign of fluffiness -- there are rational reasons for spelling it with a "k" (some of them numerological, sometimes to distinguish it from stage magic). However, I do not do so personally, and I consider spelling it with a "k" a minor red flag that indicates potential fluffiness.

Apparently your little witches have never heard of the Witches Pyramid: To will, to know, to dare, and to keep silent. Talking about magical workings generally serves no useful purpose, and even harms the process by dissipating the raised and directed energy.

Sounds to me like they're into it as a fashion statement, not in any serious way.