Gay Marriage?

Not my issue but....I think as long as they don't bother me, why should I worry about their relationships.They should have no Special rights, but no restriction on their rights either, Gay's should have to suffer through bad marriages just like regular folks, why should they be any different.

This is a V E R Y intricate issue. One must be very clear and concise with one's 'arguments'. First of all, before we even begin, implying that the alternative to believing in Christ is to be slaughtered BY the believers is ridiculous.

Secondly, regarding the "forcing of beliefs", it is JUST THAT that a society does... it arrives at, has, beholds and "enforces its beliefs" on others (everyone). That is part of what makes a society a society. You're ignoring that a society's desire to maintain it's social "glue" of heterosexual marriage vs. sanctioning "homosexual marriage" is a SOCIETY issue. It's not a "personal choice" on the part of individuals. Individuals may be able to "gay it up" all they want, but not necessarily as a publically sanctioned, tax supported, societally embraced entity - which is what Marriage is.

I always found it interesting that this culture that owes it's very existence to a culture that openly practiced homosexuality would be so homophobic.

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To the ruth person below me: You're wrong

When gay marriage does become legal in America it will because the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment will make it impossible to remain illegal

What is the States reasoning for denying a gay couple a marriage license ?and the answer is that there is none because the State has only minimal conditions on heterosexual marriage .For the State to arbitrarily use sexual orientation as a basis for denying a marriage license is a violation of their civil rights

The marriage is between a man and a woman argument has a serious flaw in it:It assumes that the marriage will produce children and that society will benefit by having children raised in a two parent household .

What if either by chance or by choice a couple doesn't produce children will they still be married ? Will the State mandate that children must be produced within x amount of time for the couple to remain married ?

I don't think it is accurate to say that it is illegal because of the Bible. Look at all of the other things that are legal, which are morally forbidden in the Bible. It's not illegal to be gay, maybe a little taboo, but non the less. The teachings are that Christ forgives, not if you don't believe in him, it is wrong. God knows your heart. But the Bible does say not to kill in vain. I feel that it is illegal to be a Gay union because it is morally wrong for society, even though I have some friends which are gay, men and women, and that is their choice, which I respect the fact.

Here's the situation, regardless of how one "feels" about gay marriage. It does not now exist in the law. Talk of people wanting to ban it is therefore inaccurate. You cannot ban something which does not exist.

The states which have passed the laws definining marriage as between a man and a woman have done so in light of other states choosing to CREATE the thing called gay marriage (allowing them to not be required to recognize gay marriage under the Full Faith and Credit Clause).

The states which do want gay marriage do not have the right, under the 10th Amendment, to foist it on the other several states.

So, it is much more than a religious issue. It comes down to a State's Rights or 10th Amendment issue.

Your right about not changing anybodies mind. My opinion has evolved, I once thought, well, they were born that way. As I've gotten older I think , when you deviate from whats normal. Then where do you draw the line. There are women that passionately believe they fall in love with 11 year old boys. There are men who like only young boys. There are men who like more than one women, and men who like more than one man. There are women that lie with animals. Men that lie with animals. These situations to me are weaknesses and if acted upon are not the ideal combination. Ideally one man and one woman.

As for imposing this opinion on anyone, would be just that, an opinion based on a conviction a person has. I don't want to see it , I don't want my children to see it. I don't care if it goes on behind closed doors. But when I drive through town I don't like to see two of the same sex kissing and holding hands. It sort of turns my stomach. I have several friends that are gay and feel they are as good as anybody, occasionally they do test me to see if I am still heterosexual.

Yes, I would like to see an amendment that would call for one woman and one man, just think it would keep the country off a slippery slope.

I'm just glad the 'Bible' didn't put left handed people on the Big Kahuna's #$%^ list. If that was the case I'd be accused of living a deviant 'lifestyle'..Imagine....a man eating with his left hand... ugh! 'Gay' marriage isn't 'right' or wrong......marriage is a legal contract beween consenting adults.....it's neither 'holy' nor is it 'sacred'....Just because 'churches', which are no more than private clubs like the Moose or the Elks, don't like it that doesn't mean a damn thing. Who gave these private clubs so much influence anyway? Jesus H. Christ.....they don't even pay taxes and they want to make public policy? If gays want to marry that's on them. Leave them and left handed people alone! No kiddin'!

You are absolutely right.

Liberty is the freedom for one to make their own choices. No organization, group of people or person owns the right to the word marriage.

How many times have we seen different religions and cultures borrow practices from one another?

There is no immorality in borrowing an idea.

The issue of homosexuality and marriage should not even be an issue. These rights and freedoms are guaranteed in the Constitution to every individual, not just those conforming with the moral perspectives of the majority.

<<< Proclaim Liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof. -- The Bible, Levitcus 21:10.

<<< Liberty:

the quality or state of being free:

the power to do as one pleases:

freedom from physical restraint freedom from arbitrary or despotic control:

the positive enjoyment of various social, political, or economic rights and privileges:

the power of choice!

"Disapproval of homosexuality cannot justify invading the houses, hearts and minds of citizens who choose to live their lives differently.” --Harry A. Blackmun

You're right, gay marriage is wrong plain and simple.. To the gays it's fine, but in God's eyes is wrong and it will always be wrong no matter what any judge says.. One might respect gay marriage but it does not mean one believes it's right..

You are right.

Technically, I don't think the bible speaks to gay marriage but rather makes two references to homosexuality. It says nothing at all about whether there should be legal protections for two people who have become life partners.