How do you stop a horse from charging at you when you lounge it?

Ohhhh for a beast like this, I would honestly step it up a notch, but email me for advice.

If i post it here, all the flicka babies will be reporting me lol.

I wouldn't tolerate this, no respect for space , whip etc, then I would definately get an upper hand.

Email me if you would like to know.

i had a 6 year old stallion off the track that did exactly the same thing. i thought for sure i was lunging the correct way, but in fact was not. i did use the whip on the neck and shoulder, but it had zero effect. it actually made him more confrontational. also, be very , very careful if you use the whip in defense, becasue it would be very easy to take an eye out, and no one wants that! i also had a dressage horse, at the time, that i was having lessons on. my trainer was a grand prix rider, and when i told her of the problem with the stallion she offered to help. she stood next to me and positioned my body, like i was a puppet...lol.

my biggest problem was NOT staying at the shoulder and NOT moving forward with the horse. you must hold your body at a slight angle, to allow the horse to move forward. no matter what he does, stay at the shoulder, AND MAINTAIN EYE CONTACT. never back away from the horse , keep the action moving forward the whole time. the stallion did attack a few times during our lesson, but it did not turn into the wrestling match it had been. by the end the horse was trotting around nicely. even though we got beyond it, i could tell whenever i lunged him, it was on his mind, and i never nodded off at the wheel....lol you will have to stay on your toes, whenever you are around this horse.

i would also suggest you email mule. he seems to know his stuff, and always has the horses best interest in mind. this horse needs to get with the program, so he can have a happy life and be well cared for.

You Have it right. It's all in the ground manners. Your horse knows that you do not have his respect and trying to lounge is going to be a disaster as you explained. You must start with the ABCs and then build your words. I recommend clinton anderson gaining respect on the ground. He uses techniques that will get your horse listening and responding to you. It takes time and patience. Whips, sticks, and spurs are not necessary. Once your horse listens to you lounging will be a breeze. Show him who's boss.

Good luck and stay safe.

You do need to step it up a bit - Get a good whip that is long enough that you can get use it in a stall but long enough that you won't get kicked - then use it! Start in a stall - use the whip to make her understand that you have your space and she has hers. A good horse should always put it's butt in the far corner of a stall when someone enters. You have to follow through and be in control of everything - she can't take a step unless you tell her to - if she acts out, whip her and make her stand till you are ready to go. The amount of whip you need to use on her depends on how quick she understands - it's ok to use them as a tool as long as you aren't using them out of rage or frustration.

One of my younger horses sometimes does this. I usually try to give her extra line so she is running in a wider circle around me, and I keep the whip in between the two of us. If she charges at me, I crack the whip and this usually scares her back to where shes supposed to be. And after she does this, I tap her with the whip, just so she knows that she shouldn't do that. Shes responded very well.

A horse that has worry know-how that they could pass back out on the circle is one element, yet a horse that rears up and expenditures the whip is thoroughly yet another. even in the experience that your horse is appearing out of worry or aggression, the two way this horse is showing a destructive tendency. Please do no longer think of i'm asserting your horse is undesirable or recommend, yet any horse that rears and expenditures has a great difficulty. If she reacts so aggressively on your instructions on the floor, you're in for great worry once you attempt to journey her. i think of you fairly should have a coach come out and artwork with you and your horse to come back on the the suited option song. I used to have a horse that did an identical element, and that i prefer somebody had insisted that i'm getting expert help with him. Even years later he nevertheless grow to be risky, and that i'm no longer able to have self assurance I survived the experience. He grow to be abused earlier I have been given him and that's terrible, yet that doesn't recommend he does not attempt to break me every time he felt threatened. look for a coach who's helpful and may be aggressive while needed, yet under no circumstances is rougher on the pony than they truthfully could be. believe me, as quickly as your horse is going via a pair training of "boot camp" for an attitude adjustment, your horse will actually be happier because of the fact he will know his place interior the pony/human pecking order and not could "combat" your instructions.

It sounds like you have a horse that is full of fear in turn you probably are as well....understandable I think you hit the nail on the head "ground manners", possible prior abuse, it sounds like you are going to need to get a professional trainer or go to some clinics that start with ground manners. Hope this helps!!

Take away her credit card?

**sorry**

I've been waiting for a question like this for over a year.

But seriously...

First, if she is misbehaving elsewhere, maybe you're moving along too quickly for her. Once you get some respect from her while you're handling her in general, you can start with the lunging. Slow and steady baby steps. Today we're going for a walk. I used the butt end of a crop to poke a piggy Peruvian (say that 10 times real fast) who crowded me on walks to remind him that he needed to mind his p's and q's. After the walk, we're going to do a good brushing or something else she enjoys. ALWAYS end on a positive with her, on something she's mastered.

When you get to the lunging point, you need to start her on a shorter line, and keep repositioning yourself at an angle behind her shoulder. It requires a lot of movement on your part to do that, and it's been a long, long time since I worked with anything green...but I do recall having to stay on my toes until they caught on to the "move in big circle" concept.

So the real question is how to gain respect. There isn't a simple, type out answer for that. You have to consistantly respond to her behavior appropriately.

Get an electric cattle prod. Use it as the tool it's meant to be. Get her respect then progress with finer training. You are not qualified to wrestle this animal and hog tie and sit on her, so zap her when she starts to come near--you must advance on her when she steps in toward you, rush in and zap, step back and urge her on to trot a circle and walk a circle, no cantering-not for months. Let her trail a thick braided rope in a round corral or pen where she is kept, you can catch the end knot of the rope with a rake, pull it to you and begin your lesson with the prod used as an extension of your arm just like a lunge whip. When she starts, you finish it and move her out--like nothing ever happened. Good luck.

Oooops, sorry, but where's my bear swatter (shotgun), that might get her attention. A nice "pattern" laid on her behind would do it. Of course, you may not catch her until the next county, but what the hey.....it sounds as though it's long overdue.

I'll award a gazillion thumbs down for my "remarks" to myself.

Couldn't resist.

This is not a situation for an amateur...a pro trainer used to dealing on a daily basis with broncs would be of best assistance to you. Allow that person to deal with your situation.

Some horses are just dangerous.

clinton anderson is a well known trainer. he has many books and dvds on lounging and ground respect (ground manners) i have used these techniques on my horse and they will do the trick they will teach ground manners and teach your horse to work as your partner and not as you boss.