At what point in the relationship is it appropriate to ask someone about their birth data?

Speak for yourself, Blue Sky.

And I do agree with the answers above. I have found a few friend's birth times just by "sneaking" a question in there. My friends already know me as the type to blirt out random things, so it usually is no surprise most of them when I randomly talk about something like, say........birth times.

A favorite trick of mine is actually probably not something I "should" do because it involves telling a little "white lie". But here's something you may try. When talking to someone whose birth time I do not have but really want to know, I will just keep on the conversation. When we both pause, not saying anything for a moment, I will basically say something like "oh, hey.....I heard something interesting the other day..." something similiar to that. Then the person asks "what's that?" and I proceed to say "did you know that if you were born during the daytime you are a day person and if you're born at night, you're likely to be a night person?" Then the person, at bit puzzled but intrigued, usually responds with something like "hmm......." then I proceed to tell them I was born at 9:13 pm and say I'm a night person. Then I ask them when they were born. This attempt has failed twice and worked probably about 10 times. So, you got a 82% chance of this working.

Another method I kinda of just thought of lol......try something like looking at the clock and seeing the time and saying something like "do you ever see numbers repeatedly?". The person will say yes or no, then you can say "it's odd, I often see the numbers of my birth time places." If the person seems suspicious or they aren't buying it, just sort of act a bit flighty, don't get too into it because they will just push away more, thinking you're getting "freaky". Act casual. Say "don't you ever notice that? Seeing the numbers in your birth time play a big role in your life?" They, of course if they know their birth time, will either say yes or no. If they say no, ask them their birth time and then say "you mean to tell me the numbers (blank blank and blank) don't play a factor in your life? You haven't noticed?" Then you have their birth time and can continue the conversation how you want. If they say yeah, then say something like "so what are the numbers?" Maybe play around a little and say you'll try to guess, again, acting casual. Then from there you should be able to get the time pretty easily.

I dunno if these work but I hope this helps. The answerers above have given some great advice as well, maybe all these answers combine can give you plenty of insight.

Hm... Interesting question... Well my question to you is, why not just ask when their birthday is? By asking that you can find out their Sun easy and maybe a little more about their birth chart easy. And asking it early to someone wouldn't be too weird, I don’t think. Personally, I felt a little...I don't know... 'Disappointed'? When my ex didn't know when my birthday was until it was actually my day. Close to two weeks I think before it even came I told him in a simple manner that my birthday was coming up, but he never asked when it was. A tad little bit hurtful actually...

Ah well. Another thing is if they usually act their sign, then you could also compare their behavior and preferences to Zodiac signs. You should have like a 70% chance of being right, eh? Plus it should keep you entertained until you do ask about birth data and maybe you could tell just on your own whether you're compatible or not. Plus, it will help you get better at this.

But on to your real question. I would think the time would depend on how the relationship goes. Like if you feel an instant connection and if you two really hit it off and start getting a little more serious a little quicker, then asking about birth data shouldn't be that big a step. He will still probably be a bit confused, who can blame him? But if you already have that connection and bit of seriousness, then he shouldn't take it as such a big thing: Threat, or weird, or otherwise. But how long into the relationship depends I think, on each person, and how they like to move in a relationship, like really quick or nice and slow. If they're shy, if they're jerks you know, if they move quickly because of like emotions; if they're little too emotional, if they're coming off a relationship, all these things play a factor. But either way once you feel a deeper connection I would say is the best time. Starting new relationship and flat out asking, 'okay what's your Zodiac sign?', will scar off anyone I think. It's like asking, 'what's your religion? What's your politically standing?'. You just don't do that, ya know?

Well I hope this helps a bit. Much luck to you.

as long as you pay half of the cost for a box of condoms....(you should always be using two forms of birth control) Otherwise no I don't think it's appropriate. This is YOUR body the NuvaRing, while can be discussed, is ultimatley YOUR decision. Either don't get something you can't, apparently, afford or pay up for YOUR decision. If he OFFERED that would be a different story, but to ask him, especially when you've been dating for only a month and a half, is inappropriate.

I guess it would be any time depending on the person.

Because I've had experiences where the guy would tell me their birthday within the first few hours of meeting...for some reason "birthdays" would come up in conversation. It sometimes comes up before I even have to ask, and then they ask me when my birthday is. I don't know if they are asking because they want to find out what sign I am, but if I were to ask someone that...then that would be one of my intentions, or I would just be interested in finding out more about them in general. I would say something like, oh I just wanted to know so I won't forget to tell you Happy Birthday or get you a gift...or something like that.

Also a good way to find out the rest of their birth info is to ask, "so were you born here?" That's came up a few times when having conversations with friends, I have a few friends that weren't born in the city they live in now, even though they've been here for yeeeeears. It's an interesting question to ask, b/c for some of my friends I would have never guessed that they were born in Chicago or some where on the East Coast. (i live in the West coast, by the way ;) )

For me, I really want to find out their birth times, but very few people I know, know their actual birth time, I guess I'm the only weirdo (out of my friends) that does. LOL. It's weird b/c even before I started learning about birth charts I knew my birth time just because I wanted to say to people "It's not my birthday yet, it will be in a few hours." or " My birthday's not over...it's not 8:00am." haha :P Cuz I think my b-day and everyone elses for that matter should be celebrated or acknowledge in a 24 hour time span. :)

I just wanted to add that I like the suggestions of the answerers above about "morning person or night person" I'll have to try that the next time birthdays come up in a conversation or if I want to find out a person's birth time. :)

Great question! :D

Read all you can about synastry. His birth date alone will give you enough data to know if the two of you are compatible. It is not necessary for you to delve into every corner of his psyche unless he has given you an engagement ring.

There really is no appropriate way to ask someone what time they were born. And most people don't really know anyway.

Just plug his planets into your chart. That should give you a nice overview if you know what to look for.

Do you happen to have a fire Mars??

haha so ashamed! (because of the psychics thing :S) but you can do this. first to say you believe in astrology and you are curious about the other person's astro chart. If they react like that's lie you inmedialy would notice, if the guy if a completely dumb with short brain he won't give you the data so you should never be with him again, if everything was ok then maybe he can be your friend, because i think that people who believe in astrology can know each other only by the astrology, so it's an important thing, but i don't know. better talk about this only with close people and your friends.

Just come out and ask him his birth date! I can't see why a guy would have a problem answering that. Unless you are wanting more detailed information like what time of day he was born. You don't have to tell him why you want to know.

Short Answer:

If it means that much to you, maybe within the first ten hours after you meet him, tell him you are into it, and JUST ASK. (It's probably a good idea to have enough time to talk about it, not standing on a street corner, you know.) If he knows about it (or cares) he will tell you. If not, it could save you a lot of time. Who knows, maybe he wants to learn about it, and you can teach him.

Most guys don't want to play 20 (especially sneaky) questions.

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It would vary depending on the situation and person really. Us Scorpio gals can be pretty darn sneaky though. I have said things like, "It is my friend's birthday today! Curious, when is yours?" Sneakiely slip it into casual conversation somehow.

Once I was in a hotel jacuzzi with these two guys, in casual, flirty conversation. One of them kept creeping closer and closer to me ever so sneakiely, as I kept edging away in the other direction. The other was pretending "not" to check me out in a sexy black bikini.

They were very friendly towards each other, but I could sense some guy stuff going in. (You know how they secretly communicate with each other in guy speak)

I was interested in the sexy, tan guy pretending "not" to notice me, not the creepy guy who stealthiely slithered closer to me as I visibly moved in the opposite direction and set my sights on "Adonis." The more I gave "Adonis" attention, the more the "dark one" tried to get closer to me. I mean, we made at least one go around the entire jacuzzi, it was like being chased by some pervert.

I was curious about their signs so about 30 minutes into the conversation jokingly said, "My funny New Agey friend says I do that cause I am a Scorpio! ha ha ha!"

Then they both said, "Hey I am a Scorpio too!" Right away their behavior made sense(especially the dude who kept trying to edge closer as I scooted in the opposite direction.)

Though I saw them hanging out together later, so I'm sure glad they "found" each other after I made my escape. That is the sort of thing that would happen to me (sigh)

You might begin by raising the question of planetary influences more generally. If you get a glazed look, you'll already have the most important part of the answer. If you get an interested conversation, then you'll know you may be on the right track.

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