Seeing directly, with your own eyes, own senses, is your body the vehicle of enlightenment to flower, unfold?

" Every master that has enlightened is only living to love,

to touch, to feel the wet and to hear the wind

and everything else it can gather.

Gather Love. Gather Love. Gather Love.

Harvest the wisdom of your fears.

Name them the names of birds and let them go. "

ignorance is in the veils, obscuring the vision of reality...

is it "what is", or is it your own projection...

Masters from 1000's of years ago claimed we were all each projecting our own realities.... {Upanishads},

just as Quantum Physics is finding now.....

Enlightenment is thought with the Buddha Mind

felt with the Listening Heart

it is process, it is interaction, it is private, it is shared....

it is Unity, non~duality, acceptance of All that IS as Self

it is effortless efforting.......

the utter overflowing of JOY into life, sharing all that you are in Celebration and Compassion because you are so very full that you must....

namaste

Dear cosmicco,

You mustn’t put much faith in your senses; they do deceive. Your body can be a vehicle to oneness in love, but not to enlightenment. When two are making love they lose themselves at climaxes together (no thoughts) and then love descends upon them. Techniques raising kundalini in the astral body elevating consciousness is also a possibility.

With enlightenment the loss is permanent. Awakening is not an experience at all because the experiencer is lost. Only in enlightenment is there no one to create or be a recipient of karma. Dropping the idea of ego-self is enlightenment. Identification or the desire to be is the cause of all suffering.

Oh yes, enlightenment is felt; great joy, fulfillment and contentment. When you have reached the end of all your effort, when you have done everything possible and nothing has happened a total surrender happens. The old is no more. This is true resurrection.

Go in peace, Asha

Cosmic, a man must work from where they are and not where they aren't. No work can begin if not from the physical, all that you are is either hindered, limited, obstructed, or an obstacle to any endeavor of will, especially if ones endeavor is beyond the natural organic limitations. The first understanding an individual has to come to understand is that they do not inhabit a body for no reason, and that they are in a body means that it is an opportunity to work on things of mind and being which could otherwise not be worked on. Then becomes the question, what work? And what is it that needs work on? This comes into the realm of knowing ones self, in the lowest of senses first, that is knowing your machine and constitution at this level.

Most do not understand the essence of Buddhism, nor do they understand the essence of nothingness, because they, like many, project these things in a literal sense or a very linear manner. A man must understand that he dwells in poverty of being, that he can do nothing. And once he comes to see why this is by observing himself, then perhaps he can begin to walk in the path of Enlightenment. Most are sleeping in dreams, they must first awake to their position in life, then they can begin.

I imagine that most do not really understand what enlightenment is or that it comes in stages. There is no transformation without without the male/female polarities of mind and being.

Yes indeed Seth! And In Deed! John 9:13-41 The healing of a blind man. While Jesus gave him his sight, the Pharisees gave him a hearing. Those who had first witnessed that the man had been healed did not know how to handle the situation, so they brought the man to the Pharisees (verse 13). Although this was not a meeting of the Sanhedrin, it was no informal gathering either. It must have been some smaller body, convening as a preliminary hearing to see if there was sufficient cause to take more rigorous action. At this initial hearing, several points were established. The man apparently had been healed by Jesus, and most significantly, on the Sabbath. The evidence presented led to two contradictory conclusions. Some recognized that such a great work could not be anything other than the work of God. Others, pointing out that the Sabbath had been violated, concluded that Jesus could not have been from God (verse 16). Perhaps in frustration they turned to the man himself. No one was more qualified to judge this matter than the healed man himself. What did he think of Jesus? Without hesitation, he answered, “He is a prophet” (verse 17). This conclusion was totally unacceptable to the opposing Pharisees. Consequently, they had to investigate the matter more fully. Perhaps this was some kind of hoax. Maybe this man only resembled the blind beggar, as some had already suggested. Perhaps his parents could shed some light on the matter. The parents were guardedly tight-lipped. It was known to them that the Pharisees had already put the word out that anyone who acknowledged Jesus as the Messiah would be put out of the synagogue (or excommunicated). As a result, the parents confirmed the fact that this man was their son, and that he had been born blind. As to who had healed him and how it was accomplished, they would not conjecture. If the Pharisees wanted to know more, let them ask their son, for he was of age and could speak for himself (verse 21). Again, the man was called before the Pharisees with the words, “Give glory to God; we know that this man is a sinner” (John 9:24). The intent of this instruction is not just that the man should give all the glory to God for his healing, and none to Jesus, but it is in effect the swearing of an oath, promising to tell the whole truth. At this point, the man did not attempt to interpret the events of his healing, but he tenaciously held to the facts: before, he was blind, but now he could see. Whatever the Jews decided, they could not alter the facts. Setting aside for a moment the fact that this man had been genuinely healed, and by Jesus, they probed into the manner of the healing. Perhaps there was something here to give the Pharisees a toehold and thus enable them to press charges against Jesus. And so they asked the man to repeat once more how the miracle was accomplished. The patience of the man gave way to exasperation. He knew all too well that they had no interest in the matter other than to find fault with Jesus. The man turned the tables on his inquisitioners and asked them a question: “I told you already, and you did not listen; why do you want to hear it again? You do not want to become His disciples too, do you?” (John 9:27). The Pharisees, who were now watching Jesus like a hawk, seeking any infraction of their meticulous rules, could not help but overhear this statement of Jesus and ask, “We are not blind too, are we?” (John 9:40). They, no doubt, hoped for a simple “No,” while expecting a stinging ‘“Yes.” Jesus explained their guilt in more detail. They would not be blind if they were aware of the issues. But their problem was not a lack of evidence. Their sin was manifested in their refusal to admit that the evidence was true. They refused to let the evidence persuade them to come to the only logical conclusion. Because they claimed to perceive the issues, they were blind, and by their own admission (verse 41). Thanks for your wonderful questions if insight and light! .

The word "transformation" means: the operation of changing one configuration or expression into another.

I believe this idea is a bit misleading, and may lead one to searching for the "key" to transformation; the "key" to enlightenment. (i.e. "if only I could acquire this 'configuration or expression' I will be transformed!")

Enlightenment, to which words (etc) can only point to, is the realization that no transformation was ever truly needed. Enlightenment has always and in all ways been our true birth nature. It is the source/root energy out of which All-That-Is springs forth into form (aka: interaction, intercourse, etc.)

The only "transformation" that may/will ever be needed, might be better understood to see it as an "un-transformation." In other words, a releasing of conditions that one has transformed themselves into; believing that these conditions are needed for the sake of living.

The idea of a sand castle just came to mind... One can take dry loose sand and turn it into a hardened ("conditioned") sand castle. This is a transformation that has taken the sand out of and away from it's original state of origin.

While in this hardened form the sand castle may get praised for it's beauty. This is likened to our need for approval thru form (physical, mental, emotional, etc). Yet, when the tide of the ocean rises and washes the sand castle away (an "un-transformation"), it is released from its hardened condition and returns to its state of origin.

If we as individuals can be likened to grains of sand (each one unique, while all ultimately the same), then we can see why it may be difficult to realize the truth of our origin. For sand is no longer ("normally") praised when it is just sand on the beach.

We are moving into a higher vibrational, less dense dimension. The whole universe watches and waits to see if we'll pull it off. All life planets, solar systems, galaxies , animals and people are ascending into a higher vibrational realm. Positive thoughts at least 51% of the time raises your vibration. We begin to transform some ways we know, others we haven't dreamt of yet. Enlightenment happens when we allow our spirits control of the soul body. The duality that we are becomes one. All things spiritual reach us through our spirit. But, are we reaching our spirit or communicating with our spirit. our spirits are already enlightened. Our soul body mind ego emotions need that enlightenment that only their spirit can bring and make them one.

a physical body is needed to become enlightened, because we must be here on the earth plane, surrounded by physicality, in order to be influenced by the illusion. also, enlightenment is not just thoughts, but feelings too. you can feel within your body the effects of enlightenment. i think that if you could experience enlightenment on more that one level, say mental, emotional, and physical, it would naturally raise the engery higher, because you are incooperating all aspects of your being.

Your body could be a vehicle (like in tantric sex), but absolutely not necessary to have a body to experience enlightenment, you could achieve it thru thought process (meditation), interaction (vibrational waves or as someone noted if you're having lcd trip, mushrooms etc.) The danger of intoxication with above mentioned chemicals, you may not come back and be eventually committed to the institution. So try some natural ways to start with.

When it happens to you, you'll know. It isn't physical par say for the body, as that's not you, you are your Soul and thus will feel it there. Best of luck to you all on the Path from an Enlightened :D

You will certainly feel different, physically, mentally and spiritually...it does not require a physical body...but God often works through the physical world to show us His/Her/Its love. The exhuberant licking of a puppy, a gentle breeze caressing your face and hair, even suddenly noticing a particularly beautiful flower...these little moments are forms of enlightenment in themselves.