Is this finally the October surprise?

If could very well be with the recent lawsuits filed in Washington and Hawaii. The only reason that I can see for Obama not to comply with turning over his Birth Certificate is that he does not have one.

Patsy S.

Panama was completed in 1914 and under the direct control of the US. John McCain is a citizen because both of his parents are US Citizens and a Military post is also considered US territory. Obama's birth is a bit different, true Stanley Ann Dunham was a US Citizen, Obama's father was a citizen of Kenya. In cases where a citizen marries a non citizen the child can become a citizen if the mother was a citizen for 14 years, 5 years of which had to be after attaining the age of 18. Since Obama's mother was only 19 years old at the time .

We know that Obama moved to Indonesia and attended school there, Indonesian laws require you to be a citizen to attend school so Obama lost his US birthright citizenship and to regain it one of two things would have had to occur. First, his mother would have had to swear the oath since she also gave up Indonesian citizenship or Obama could have done the same at the age of 18. If this had happened there would be records indicting this.

Obama therefore is not a US citizen he is an Indonesian citizen and by constitutional law can not become the President of the United States, nor can he be a US Senator.

EDIT - UPDATE

The US gave the Panama Canal back to Panama effective Dec 1999

His birth certificate is here:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/B...

However, keep in mind Obama's B.C. was produced by his campaign. And there are no details of their correspondence with the health dept in Hawaii. Whose to say that the scanned image is not a fabrication or an altered image.

To say the least, with all the other scandals Obama's campaign has been involved in such as Acorn, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the B.C. is a fraud itself.

What I don't get is- why didn't he just present his birth certificate in the first place-

Even if he or the DNC believes Berg's lawsuit is without merit- if Obama's birth certificate can get the case dismissed just cough one up-

It really isn't that hard to get a birth certificate in the United States.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! the phenomenal wing nuts are extremely desperate now, are not they? Obama grew to become into born to an American citizen in usa, so he's an American citizen, that is in simple terms that straightforward. it is as ridiculous as while the left wing nuts tried to declare that McCain wasn't eligible to be president because of the fact he grew to become into no longer born interior the U. S.. that is actual, he grew to become into born in Panama, yet his mom and dad are the two human beings and he grew to become into born in Panama because of the fact his father, a army guy, grew to become into stationed there. So McCain is likewise a organic American citizen.

If there were something to find, don't you think all major newspapers and TV stations would be covering this? Do you know why they aren't? Because it's already been proven without a shadow of a doubt that Obama is a natural born U.S. citizen. Just because some quack is pushing the envelope and another quack is blogging about it does not make it true.

i posted this same question 2 days ago and got slammed and called a racist for being curious

why WOULDN'T the judge have the papers by now? i would just turn them over if there was a serious lawsuit pending challenging my citizenship...

and those who says it's old news, the case is still pending

There can also be a lawsuit against McCain who was not born in the USA., Just more of Republican's BS. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/20...

Here is Obama's birth certificate: http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertific... Obama's mother was a US citizen in Hawaii where he was born in 1961. Hawaii became a State in 1959. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Hawaii

Condition of his grandmother: http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20081...

No. Similar lawsuits have been filed for months and were dismissed. There is no legal question about Obama's citizenship. He was born in Hawaii and there is no evidence to the contrary. He does not require a higher standard than others to prove he is a natural born citizen.

McCain on the other hand, was born in Panama. It was a serious question whether or not his birth on a US base there constituted being born in the US. He filed for a decision in the Court prior to his 2000 run and was, rightly, declared to be a natural born citizen and eligible to run for president, even though, unlike Obama, he was born in a foreign country.

As for why he's going to Hawaii, his grandmother, who raised him, is gravely ill. He is going to see her now in case she doesn't live to see her grandson elected president.

i have been following berg's lawsuit and that is what i was thinking the october surprise would be. considering obama refuses to turn over his paperwork to the judge then i can only assume he is not eligible for the presidency and i hope they wipe him off considering that is what he did to all of his competition for the ill. state senate seat. he cheated to get there and now its coming back to him. hahahhahhahaha

No- the October surprise is that Carrot Top and George Clooney have both come out of the closet and announced their engagement!